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Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: Foxpaw] #8108811 03/27/24 07:43 AM 03/27/24 07:43 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,387 Alabama (Bama for short) 108 y... Jtrapper trapper
Jtrapper trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,387 Alabama (Bama for short) 108 y...	We have a lot of iffy bridges in this country. I thought obama's muliti TRILLION dollar infrastructure bill was going to fix all that? What happened? lol Not my circus, not my clowns.

Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: Foxpaw] #8108817 03/27/24 08:06 AM 03/27/24 08:06 AM
Joined: May 2016 Posts: 3,530 Southern Illinois F Foxpaw OP trapper
Foxpaw OP trapper F Joined: May 2016 Posts: 3,530 Southern Illinois	I don't see why they couldn't go out in front of the bridge a 100 yds or so and build a piling of sorts on each side of the bridge that's even more secure than what the bridge is sitting on. So if they are not lined up to hit the hole thru the bridge they would hit the piling and get stopped before hitting the bridge. The wife said it wouldn't hold it, but my reply was that the bridge held it, at least until the anchor took hold.

Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: DaveP] #8108904 03/27/24 10:35 AM 03/27/24 10:35 AM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 8,574 Henderson, N.Y. Jefferson Co. W walleyed trapper
walleyed trapper W Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 8,574 Henderson, N.Y. Jefferson Co.	Originally Posted by DaveP Originally Posted by walleyed Heard some data estimates that 14 million vechiles cross that bridge span each year !!! It may be over a year before authorities can clear the channel under the bridge. Port of Baltimore is the import destination hub of nearly 100% of all foreign vechile imports. This is a major economic blow to the United States economy. w Equipment is en route already. I suspect channel will be open within 90 days. Maybe so, but probably not if it turns out to be a Union Job !!! w "Provisional/Interim" member of NYS Trappers Association Jefferson Co. Fur Harvesters I Support Non-Resident Trapping

Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: Foxpaw] #8108914 03/27/24 10:41 AM 03/27/24 10:41 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,561 coastal ny G gcs trapper
gcs trapper G Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,561 coastal ny	Oh it will be union job.....lol A performance bond would help, but does anyone seriously think the union bosses and their pets in Washington won't balk at that....

Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: walleyed] #8108933 03/27/24 11:09 AM 03/27/24 11:09 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,011 MD D DaveP trapper
DaveP trapper D Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,011 MD	Originally Posted by walleyed Maybe so, but probably not if it turns out to be a Union Job !!! w Heck, put up a sign FREE SCRAP METAL, be gone in a week! Better yet, a sign that reads DO NOT STEAL, be gone overnight

Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: Foxpaw] #8108935 03/27/24 11:10 AM 03/27/24 11:10 AM
Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 9,325 Northern MN O Osky trapper
Osky trapper O Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 9,325 Northern MN	Can the bridge, tunnel it. In the meantime all hands on deck, cranes on barges, cutting torches, inflatable bags to lift and get the channel open. I do not see why it will take years plural to clear that 450’ shipping channel. Osky "A womans heart is the hardest rock the Almighty has put on this earth, and I can find no sign on it" Jabless in Minnesota www.SureDockusa.com

Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: Foxpaw] #8108939 03/27/24 11:17 AM 03/27/24 11:17 AM
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 45,527 james bay frontierOnt. B Boco trapper
Boco trapper B Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 45,527 james bay frontierOnt.	Ship should have just kept going like an icebreaker. Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.

Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: Boco] #8108943 03/27/24 11:25 AM 03/27/24 11:25 AM
Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,391 Hudson valley , NY S slowpoke trapper
slowpoke trapper S Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,391 Hudson valley , NY	I want to talk to that one survivor, that road that bridge down and swam away .. What a ride that must have been !!!! One lucky dude ! One report said that he refused treatment…..

Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: Foxpaw] #8109005 03/27/24 12:52 PM 03/27/24 12:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,011 MD D DaveP trapper
DaveP trapper D Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,011 MD	Just saw a video of deer hides washing up with wreckage in background. Would post link, but language is what you'd expect...

Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: Foxpaw] #8109054 03/27/24 02:36 PM 03/27/24 02:36 PM
Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 2,230 Missouri H HayDay trapper
HayDay trapper H Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 2,230 Missouri	When disasters hit, normal rules go out the window. Have heard of railroad tracks washing out in floods and the railroad was pushing boxcars full of rocks into the hole while the flood waters till raging. In NW MO during 2011 flood event, railroad had a tug push barges full of rip rap rock from river across farmer's fields.........pulling right into the hole while flood was still raging. As soon as flood waters stopped, they were replacing bed and track. That took days......not weeks or months. They can come in a cut up the bridge with explosive charges and then drag the pieces off to the side with tugs and cranes. That is the Chesapeake. They have knowledge, equipment and resources the rest of us cannot even imagine. I'll be shocked if that takes more than a week or two to clear.

Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: slowpoke] #8109058 03/27/24 02:41 PM 03/27/24 02:41 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 35,176 McGrath, AK W white17 "General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"
white17 "General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington" W Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 35,176 McGrath, AK	Originally Posted by slowpoke I want to talk to that one survivor, that road that bridge down and swam away .. What a ride that must have been !!!! One lucky dude ! One report said that he refused treatment….. I think that was Chuck Norris Mean As Nails

Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: Foxpaw] #8109061 03/27/24 02:46 PM 03/27/24 02:46 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,561 coastal ny G gcs trapper
gcs trapper G Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,561 coastal ny	The work could be done relatively quick, lots of the major equipment necessary is already in Baltimore harbor. You want it done fast put the Navy seabees in charge. Do they still have Seabees?

Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: slowpoke] #8109088 03/27/24 03:43 PM 03/27/24 03:43 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,716 Sandhills Nebraska G Gary Benson trapper
Gary Benson trapper G Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,716 Sandhills Nebraska	Originally Posted by slowpoke I want to talk to that one survivor, that road that bridge down and swam away .. What a ride that must have been !!!! One lucky dude ! One report said that he refused treatment….. That was Boco. Life ain't supposed to be easy.

Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: Gary Benson] #8109100 03/27/24 03:57 PM 03/27/24 03:57 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,011 MD D DaveP trapper
DaveP trapper D Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,011 MD	Originally Posted by Gary Benson Originally Posted by slowpoke I want to talk to that one survivor, that road that bridge down and swam away .. What a ride that must have been !!!! One lucky dude ! One report said that he refused treatment….. That was Boco. May be right, guy didn't speak a work.of English..

Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: Jtrapper] #8109210 03/27/24 06:50 PM 03/27/24 06:50 PM
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,033 PA P PSB1011 trapper
PSB1011 trapper P Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,033 PA	Originally Posted by Jtrapper We have a lot of iffy bridges in this country. I thought obama's muliti TRILLION dollar infrastructure bill was going to fix all that? What happened? lol they are building museums with the money, they are now considered infrastructure

Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: Gary Benson] #8109215 03/27/24 06:57 PM 03/27/24 06:57 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 63,136 Minnesota 330-Trapper trapper
330-Trapper trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 63,136 Minnesota	Originally Posted by Gary Benson Originally Posted by slowpoke I want to talk to that one survivor, that road that bridge down and swam away .. What a ride that must have been !!!! One lucky dude ! One report said that he refused treatment….. That was Boco. NRA and NTA Life Member www.BackroadsRevised@etsy.com

Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: Foxpaw] #8109244 03/27/24 07:23 PM 03/27/24 07:23 PM
Joined: Apr 2022 Posts: 3,798 Wisconsin G Guss trapper
Guss trapper G Joined: Apr 2022 Posts: 3,798 Wisconsin	Just like dc put the tax payer on the hook to foot the bill.

Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: Foxpaw] #8109292 03/27/24 08:15 PM 03/27/24 08:15 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,920 ohio Ohio Wolverine trapper
Ohio Wolverine trapper Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,920 ohio	I just can't see it not being on purpose. It was going past that piling, and all of a sudden , the black smoke from the stacks, and a hard right, right into the piling. The more I look at the videos , the more it just doesn't look right. We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!

Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: Foxpaw] #8109295 03/27/24 08:19 PM 03/27/24 08:19 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 25,657 Georgia warrior trapper
warrior trapper Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 25,657 Georgia	I'm willing to accept it as an accident, stuff happens. BUT the apparent rush to not investigate and the social media silencing of those asking questions, often with nasty commentary, has my conspiracy alarms going off.

Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: HayDay] #8109314 03/27/24 08:38 PM 03/27/24 08:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 4,571 Nebraska Trapset trapper
Trapset trapper Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 4,571 Nebraska	Originally Posted by HayDay When disasters hit, normal rules go out the window. Have heard of railroad tracks washing out in floods and the railroad was pushing boxcars full of rocks into the hole while the flood waters till raging. In NW MO during 2011 flood event, railroad had a tug push barges full of rip rap rock from river across farmer's fields.........pulling right into the hole while flood was still raging. As soon as flood waters stopped, they were replacing bed and track. That took days......not weeks or months. They can come in a cut up the bridge with explosive charges and then drag the pieces off to the side with tugs and cranes. That is the Chesapeake. They have knowledge, equipment and resources the rest of us cannot even imagine. I'll be shocked if that takes more than a week or two to clear. That’s exactly what the RR did here during the last big flood. It was nuts! More and different types of equipment than Ive ever seen. Miles of trucks loaded with rock on the side of the highway. I thought it would take all summer and they were back up and running in about a week. www.rtssetter.com

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