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Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: Foxpaw] #8108066
03/26/24 08:04 AM
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Unbelievable they didn't have protection cells in place to prevent a strike like this!


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Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: Foxpaw] #8108077
03/26/24 08:39 AM
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I bet nobody got thru airport security with nail clippers though..


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Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: Foxpaw] #8108091
03/26/24 08:57 AM
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It's Trump fault!!

Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: Guss] #8108097
03/26/24 09:15 AM
03/26/24 09:15 AM
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Heard some data estimates that 14 million vechiles
cross that bridge span each year !!!

It may be over a year before authorities can clear
the channel under the bridge.

Port of Baltimore is the import destination hub of nearly
100% of all foreign vechile imports.

This is a major economic blow to the United States economy.

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Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: Foxpaw] #8108101
03/26/24 09:19 AM
03/26/24 09:19 AM
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Here is a different perspective. The ship seems to have a total loss of power. Then the power comes back on, and you can see dark smoke come pouring out of one of the stacks as the pilot tries to maneuver and add power I would assume. They then lose power again and it comes back on again right before they hit the bridge.



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Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: Foxpaw] #8108103
03/26/24 09:21 AM
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Surely wouldnt take that long to clear it if they really wanted to? I would think with a big enough ship or three they could drag most of it out of the channel where they could cut it up and remove later

Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: Foxpaw] #8108107
03/26/24 09:23 AM
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That video makes it look like the ship made a glancing blow to the bridge footer (hard turn to starboard and loss of power), passed the bridge upright, then backed up into it a second time. A bit suspicious for sure.

Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: k snow] #8108123
03/26/24 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by k snow
That video makes it look like the ship made a glancing blow to the bridge footer (hard turn to starboard and loss of power), passed the bridge upright, then backed up into it a second time. A bit suspicious for sure.

I keep seeing people say that but its clear that there wasnt any backing up. You arent stopping that beast, backing it up and slamming into the bridge in the amount of time seen in the video. Might of been a bit of bounce back but it was on full send.

Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: SNIPERBBB] #8108124
03/26/24 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
Originally Posted by k snow
That video makes it look like the ship made a glancing blow to the bridge footer (hard turn to starboard and loss of power), passed the bridge upright, then backed up into it a second time. A bit suspicious for sure.

I keep seeing people say that but its clear that there wasnt any backing up. You arent stopping that beast, backing it up and slamming into the bridge in the amount of time seen in the video. Might of been a bit of bounce back but it was on full send.


I see that now, not sure why my brain saw it the other way. Definitely full send into the bridge.

Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: Foxpaw] #8108127
03/26/24 10:04 AM
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I’ll bet the ship owners and the pilot are already lawyered up so it will be a while before we know what really happened , if ever.

Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: Foxpaw] #8108136
03/26/24 10:23 AM
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Looks like power loss, if I remember right on a ship of that size if they went into reverse they could shear the screws off, so probably trying to power forward to push it into the shipping lane and try to clear the bridge.

Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: Foxpaw] #8108149
03/26/24 10:37 AM
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First time I’ve heard about this,,, I’ll have to read up on this


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Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: Foxpaw] #8108151
03/26/24 10:40 AM
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Looks to me like a boat that was already going too fast coming out of harbor, then at last moment, poured on the coal to pick up speed, then turned to starboard, lined up on bridge and stayed there until it hit. Looks pretty deliberate to me.

Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: Foxpaw] #8108161
03/26/24 10:56 AM
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new report is there was a mayday issued and bridge traffic stopped

Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: Foxpaw] #8108169
03/26/24 11:05 AM
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I just heard the same thing SNIPERBBB; the ship issued a Mayday shortly before the accident and the workers on the bridge were able to stop all traffic. Six of eight construction workers are still missing according to the report I just read.


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Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: Lugnut] #8108185
03/26/24 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
Here is a different perspective. The ship seems to have a total loss of power. Then the power comes back on, and you can see dark smoke come pouring out of one of the stacks as the pilot tries to maneuver and add power I would assume. They then lose power again and it comes back on again right before they hit the bridge.


you can see the lights go out 2x it was coming in fast with no power then the power comes in they appear to try to turn then crash

I suspect we will see a 3 tug escort and a local pilot on the bridge of these ships in the future.

it is just way to easy for a ship this size to take out a major peice of infrastructure like a bridge to trust it to anything less.


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Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: Foxpaw] #8108198
03/26/24 11:50 AM
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Supposedly that ship has been plagued with power failure issues, and I seriously doubt it was deliberate, there would have been an American pilot on board.

Once those things are moving you ain't stopping it with a fast maneuver, in fact it looks like they almost missed that column in spite of the momentum.

Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: Foxpaw] #8108200
03/26/24 11:53 AM
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That video showed several cars on the bridge not long before the impact but none at the time of impact.


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Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: Foxpaw] #8108204
03/26/24 12:02 PM
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We need scuba's opinion on this accident.


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Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse [Re: run] #8108208
03/26/24 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by run
We need scuba's opinion on this accident.

And Wolfie too.


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