Re: 330 Setters Not Required
[Re: Bigbrownie]
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But it is hard sometimes when there’s a beaver in the trap. [/quote]
This is why i carry setters with me
Till that day.....
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Re: 330 Setters Not Required
[Re: imlvt]
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03/12/24 09:24 PM
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Did it for years but I’m paying the price for doing it that way today it’s tough on the hands if you over do it. A good squeeze on a pliers can pop most of my finder joints sometimes. That pop gets your attention when they go several at once.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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Re: 330 Setters Not Required
[Re: imlvt]
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03/12/24 09:36 PM
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At a trapping rendezvous I witnessed a man, a bear of a man mind you, who may have never even seen a 330 before that day, set a 330 without setters in a 330 speed setting competition. The 330 was a well worn but clean trap with suitable springs for its intended purpose, but not overly strong. He looked at it for a short while, then compressed the first spring with one large hand and held it there while compressing the other spring with his other hand. He was not aware of the spring catches or their intended purpose. He then placed the loose jaws between his knees and forced his knees together until they held the springs in compression so that he could use his giant hands to force the jaws open and set the trap. The audience in attendance was aghast with open mouths in horror during this most awkward event, worrying about the safety and wellbeing of this man. The whole thing was as sketchy looking as it gets, but he got it done. The late great Bud Jenkins who was the Master of Ceremonies of this event was watching closely and a couple of times it looked like he was about to step in and save the man, but he didn't. The crowd went nuts! The guy just shrugged like he was embarrassed that it took him so long. He did not have the fastest time, but if memory serves me, Bud gave him the trophy anyway, and I doubt any of the other competitors minded one bit. That was without a doubt the craziest feats of strength I have ever witnessed. Personally, when I forget to bring my setters and have a huge, stiff as a board beaver wedged tight in the trap, I want to cry.
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Re: 330 Setters Not Required
[Re: imlvt]
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03/12/24 09:43 PM
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Tis why they invented 3/8" rope. Never leave home without it.
"The voice of reason!"
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Re: 330 Setters Not Required
[Re: trapperkeck]
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03/12/24 09:46 PM
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Tis why they invented 3/8" rope. Never leave home without it. that was one of the first things they showed us in trappers ed demo day how to free yourself with a pair of boot laces.
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Re: 330 Setters Not Required
[Re: imlvt]
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03/12/24 10:40 PM
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I can set brand new 330 Belisles in less than ten seconds. Not sure if the setters you guys buy are faster than that, but have never seen a reason to change what I do. Never had issues getting critters out of them either except in those rare instances when a big beaver gets suitcased. But I still get them out with not too much fuss.
My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
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Re: 330 Setters Not Required
[Re: imlvt]
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03/12/24 10:53 PM
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I only used or seen setters once when I was trapping beaver for a coworker. He had ordered 2 330's and some setters and had them out at his property. But tno luck catching the beaver. So I tried the setters out thinking are you kidding why,. Well I soon found out why with how nice and easy they made setting those 330's an for getting beaver out of them.
Now I would never have know how nice they are had I not tried them there. I caught all his beaver for him and haven't used a setter again but if I trapped beaver and used a lot of 330s often I would not be without them. But I only have one 330 and don't use it much. I prefer foot holds and snares for beaver.
Glad to hear you still have it in you to get those monsters set by hand.
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Re: 330 Setters Not Required
[Re: imlvt]
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03/12/24 11:01 PM
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It's not about monster strength....it's technique.
My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
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Re: 330 Setters Not Required
[Re: imlvt]
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03/12/24 11:04 PM
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At the speed setting at FHA all the fastest guys compress both springs at the same time and use their knee to open the jaws and set.Step on the jaws with the trap standing up and pull the bottom spring arms up until they can grab and squeeze the spring eyes in one motion-all in the technique.Need a good strong grip though. I set all kinds of traps no problem by hand for years on the line but last few years always use setters,too hard on the old elbow joints.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: 330 Setters Not Required
[Re: imlvt]
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03/12/24 11:09 PM
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How stout are the 330's they use in the competitions Boco?
My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
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Re: 330 Setters Not Required
[Re: imlvt]
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03/12/24 11:17 PM
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For an older guy...the "cool" thing ISN'T setting a 330 with only your hands. It's getting yourself out of a 330 with ONLY YOUR ONE HAND!
Forget the rope....you'll be trembling too much from the pain. Forget stepping on the jaws or springs...you'll be in mud. Forget the scissor-type setters....you won't have but one hand available.
Buy yourself one of those caulking gun setters. You can thank me after you release yourself.
If you get both hands in the 330....well...I hope you haven’t fastened it down yet.
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Re: 330 Setters Not Required
[Re: Boco]
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03/12/24 11:46 PM
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At the speed setting at FHA all the fastest guys compress both springs at the same time and use their knee to open the jaws and set.Step on the jaws with the trap standing up and pull the bottom spring arms up until they can grab and squeeze the spring eyes in one motion-all in the technique.Need a good strong grip though. I set all kinds of traps no problem by hand for years on the line but last few years always use setters,too hard on the old elbow joints. This was my thought when reading Carl52's post. What he, and then you, described is standard for the 300 setting contests I've watched. Is using setters allowed in a 330 contest? If they are... they shouldn't be.
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Re: 330 Setters Not Required
[Re: imlvt]
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03/13/24 12:06 AM
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Swamp Wolf, you have earned CHAMPION STATUS in my country ! Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I speak from experience. Been there done that.....if ya know what I mean. Most learning experiences were NOT pleasant.
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Re: 330 Setters Not Required
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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03/13/24 01:20 AM
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How stout are the 330's they use in the competitions Boco? Brand new of all kinds sauvageau LDL and Belisles. And footholds.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: 330 Setters Not Required
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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03/13/24 04:33 AM
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It's not about monster strength....it's technique. And not having arthritis in both hands lol. That's why I use setters now. I can do it with my hands still but pay the price later that night
NYSTA, NTA, FTA, life member Erie county trappers assn.,life member Catt.county trappers
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Re: 330 Setters Not Required
[Re: imlvt]
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03/13/24 07:45 AM
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Maybe you need two setters????? It’s good to find out if you can still do it though! I left setters in the canoe yesterday, 20’ away, and set a 750 by hand, just cuz. Wasn’t fun after being spoiled with one hand setters.
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Re: 330 Setters Not Required
[Re: imlvt]
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03/13/24 07:51 AM
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Want to test your hand strength pick up up a new Duke 330. They will even defeat several of the scissors type setters .
It’s a lazy man who can’t find his wife a second job !
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Re: 330 Setters Not Required
[Re: trapperkeck]
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03/13/24 08:17 AM
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Tis why they invented 3/8" rope. Never leave home without it. Exactly. My rope has lived in my vest pocket for 20+ years. It comes in handy for packing beaver out too.
I have nothing clever to put here.
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Re: 330 Setters Not Required
[Re: imlvt]
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03/13/24 08:25 AM
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beaverpeeler wait till you are our age. I am now very scared of the duke 330, never even touched a belisle or canadian one. I do have two out (but very seldom) now but much prefer my foot holds unless I am with someone else......jk = 81 years old
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Re: 330 Setters Not Required
[Re: imlvt]
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Ive never carried a pair of setters with me. Always set over my knee. One thing I do like them for is taking beaver out of the trap, but the setters stay in my shed. I'd be losing them sooner or later if i carried them and Its another thing to carry, too inconvenient for my liking
"They that can give up essential liberty to gain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety" Ben Franklin talking about guns
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Re: 330 Setters Not Required
[Re: 160user]
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Tis why they invented 3/8" rope. Never leave home without it. Exactly. My rope has lived in my vest pocket for 20+ years. It comes in handy for packing beaver out too. Havnt found the prefect tree yet?,,,,,,, Post picture when you do…..
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Re: 330 Setters Not Required
[Re: goldy]
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03/13/24 09:58 AM
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Ive never carried a pair of setters with me. Always set over my knee. One thing I do like them for is taking beaver out of the trap, but the setters stay in my shed. I'd be losing them sooner or later if i carried them and Its another thing to carry, too inconvenient for my liking Setters and a potato fork Setter are 10 times faster and great for removing your arm from said trap
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Re: 330 Setters Not Required
[Re: jk]
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03/13/24 11:16 AM
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beaverpeeler wait till you are our age. I am now very scared of the duke 330, never even touched a belisle or canadian one. I do have two out (but very seldom) now but much prefer my foot holds unless I am with someone else......jk = 81 years old I bow my head to that. I'm just a shade less than 67 and will come time I'll have to rethink things....but for right now I got no reason to change. Easy peasy and I never leave them behind.
My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
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Re: 330 Setters Not Required
[Re: imlvt]
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03/13/24 12:19 PM
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I used to set 330s by hand until my carpal tunnel started kicking in. At my age a setter is a must.
Most in this country have things people in other countries only dream about. Yet, they want America to be more like those other countries.
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Re: 330 Setters Not Required
[Re: imlvt]
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I leave those things behind more than any other tool when trapping open water,I always have two sets on the bike.
Last edited by Boco; 03/13/24 03:17 PM.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: 330 Setters Not Required
[Re: Boco]
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I leave those things behind more than any other tool when trapping open water,I always have two sets on the bike. If I’m trapping the river and leaving from our place, my setter is about the only thing I’ll turn around for. I sometimes forget it on the bike. Lunch, gun, no problem. Setter, better turn around. Lol. It turned me into a sissy.
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Re: 330 Setters Not Required
[Re: OhioBoy]
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I just leave the safeties on so I don't have to worry about resetting them. Do you ever catch anything?
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Re: 330 Setters Not Required
[Re: Swamp Wolf]
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Swamp Wolf, you have earned CHAMPION STATUS in my country ! Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I speak from experience. Been there done that.....if ya know what I mean. Most learning experiences were NOT pleasant. You have also graduated to the 750 club. Not interested in joining myself. For 330's, thats way they make setters and that's way I use them. Nothing to prove to no one. Sarge
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Re: 330 Setters Not Required
[Re: Swamp Wolf]
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I just leave the safeties on so I don't have to worry about resetting them. Do you ever catch anything? Sometimes I just make myself laugh I guess. lol
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Re: 330 Setters Not Required
[Re: OhioBoy]
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I just leave the safeties on so I don't have to worry about resetting them. Do you ever catch anything? ROTFFALMFAO !!!! X 2 !!!!!! Same, Same for walleyed at times !!! w
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Re: 330 Setters Not Required
[Re: 52Carl]
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Is there a lower sense of self esteem than checking a sprung 330 with the safeties still on located in the perfect channel trying to catch the last beaver? That's worthy of a sound dog cussing of the numbnut that left them on. Yes, I talk to myself all the time, lol.
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Re: 330 Setters Not Required
[Re: 52Carl]
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Is there a lower sense of self esteem than checking a sprung 330 with the safeties still on located in the perfect channel trying to catch the last beaver? No 52Carl...No, there isn’t....lol....
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