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Re: So....the red heffier [Re: rex123] #8095781
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Originally Posted by rex123
Yes it is supposed to bring the coming of Christ . The first coming of Christ .As the Jews don't think he has come the first time.

1 John 2:22 who is a lier but he thet denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
Originally Posted by Chancey
They've been working on this for at least 20 years now.

Some of them, lets hope its the good ones, also know where the Ark of the Covenant is.

Also know where the ark is?
Revelation 11:19


I am not going to argue with you over interpretation of scripture. We both believe Jesus Christ is mankind's Lord and Savior and that is enough.
My personal thoughts are that the Ark is still on earth; possibly in Ethiopia as Danny just mentioned.


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Re: So....the red heffier [Re: Giant Sage] #8095788
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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
Originally Posted by rex123
Yes it is supposed to bring the coming of Christ . The first coming of Christ .As the Jews don't think he has come the first time.

1 John 2:22 who is a lier but he thet denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.


Good grief, since you are so heck bent on proving everyone wrong with scripture, then why don't you pick up the NT and read the Acts; particularly the part about Stephen and why they stoned him to death. He was going somewhere with his story before they took him out and killed him.

Jesus was a Jew. So were Mathew, Mark, Luke, and John, let's not forget those minor details.


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Re: So....the red heffier [Re: BTLowry] #8095789
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Originally Posted by BTLowry
What is coming can not be stopped or hindered by any human. When the time for Jesus to return arrives, he will

Pretty sure red angus cattle are not the only all red haired cattle. Santa Gertrudis are as well


Red is the dun factor of black so most black breeds can throw a red, particularly if they have not been culled to exclude the dun gene.

Other red breeds

Red Devon
Shorthorn (one of two red sources for the Santa Getrudis the other being hereford)
Highland
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That would be cool Chancey
I wasn't actually interpreting scripture. Just sharing a verse of the only sighting of the Arch mentioned in the bible after the distruction of the first temple.

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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by BTLowry
What is coming can not be stopped or hindered by any human. When the time for Jesus to return arrives, he will

Pretty sure red angus cattle are not the only all red haired cattle. Santa Gertrudis are as well


Red is the dun factor of black so most black breeds can throw a red, particularly if they have not been culled to exclude the dun gene.

Other red breeds

Red Devon
Shorthorn (one of two red sources for the Santa Getrudis the other being hereford)
Highland
Red Poll
Limousin
Senepol

Yeah I was wondering about the genetic thing if this ...like does it have to be an all natural red from a certain breed or with certain blood ones tracing back to XYZ ? Was joking with the guys and tmsaid it would be funny if Jesus popped in for a hot sec just to say " those cows where artificially inseminated , doesn't count try again" laugh

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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
That would be cool Chancey
I wasn't actually interpreting scripture. Just sharing a verse of the only sighting of the Arch mentioned in the bible after the distruction of the first temple.


I sincerely apologize Giant Sage, I totally misinterpreted your message. My fault 100%. Am sorry.


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The bible verse I posted was not about the followers of Christ.
It was the DENIERS. Matthew Mark Luke and John were not sacrificing red cows on the alter.
Why would they. I quoted John about deniers. How is that trying to prove anyone wrong.

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As far as I know any sacrifices were required from the teachings of the Old Testament and I am a New Testament guy. If I need to explain any more than that you wouldnt understand anyway.


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I was attempting to make the point that Stephen was pointing out that some Jews totally miss the ball and get it wrong the first time, but they figure it out and get it right the second time. He was talking about Christ and was fixing to make that point before they took him out and killed him with rocks. There are a lot of Messianic Jews; some of the other ones; well I believe they are pure evil.


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Re: So....the red heffier [Re: Wolfdog91] #8095807
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I think most Jews know, or at least wonder if they maybe didn't mess up with the crucifixion. I think that may be why they're going to such extremes to try to get Christ to come. I think most of them would believe it would be for the first time. Most Christians seem content to wait for his second coming.

And yes Chancey, most of the disciples WERE Jews, until the resurrection, upon which they became Christians. Jews today have been denying the resurrection of Christ for over 2000 years. That said, I believe most Jews are closer to us than Muslims are by a long shot. Jews are just today's Doubting Thomases.


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Originally Posted by Leftlane
As far as I know any sacrifices were required from the teachings of the Old Testament and I am a New Testament guy. If I need to explain any more than that you wouldnt understand anyway.


Amen to that Hoss! Bullseye, dead on IMO.


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No need for apology.
I do understand there are different view or interpretation. This is why I try to use scripture in context of the peaple of whom it's written. I'm not a comantery reader or realy a follower of any ecological claim. I just read scripture for what it is. And let the Holy Ghost be the teacher.
I certainly don't look for a third temple to be built. I would think if it where it would not please God.

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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
I think most Jews know, or at least wonder if they maybe didn't mess up with the crucifixion. I think that may be why they're going to such extremes to try to get Christ to come. I think most of them would believe it would be for the first time. Most Christians seem content to wait for his second coming.

And yes Chancey, most of the disciples WERE Jews, until the resurrection, upon which they became Christians. Jews today have been denying the resurrection of Christ for over 2000 years. That said, I believe most Jews are closer to us than Muslims are by a long shot. Jews are just today's Doubting Thomases.



That's the thing Yote, Jesus' sacrifice was not a tragedy for mankind. It was a blessing; it had to happen. I wasn't the Jews that put him to death, he died for me and your sins.
His blood was enough. How else can a righteous and just God justify the sins of man?


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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
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No need for apology.
I do understand there are different view or interpretation. This is why I try to use scripture in context of the peaple of whom it's written. I'm not a comantery reader or realy a follower of any ecological claim. I just read scripture for what it is. And let the Holy Ghost be the teacher.
I certainly don't look for a third temple to be built. I would think if it where it would not please God.



Possibly so. I really don't know. I am the same way. I read the Book and pray for the Holy Spirit to give me wisdom and always interpret it with Truth. I still struggle with it.

From what I understand though from my interpretation of what I read, it seems Jesus will return to earth and rule on His throne in Israel. A third Temple will have to built first for that to happen. What am I missing that you are seeing.........?


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Originally Posted by Chancey



That's the thing Yote, Jesus' sacrifice was not a tragedy for mankind. It was a blessing; it had to happen. I wasn't the Jews that put him to death, he died for me and your sins.
His blood was enough. How else can a righteous and just God justify the sins of man?


And maybe also for the sins of the Jews? When Jesus told the Jewish criminal dying next to him on the cross "they know not what they do" do you not think he was speaking to all Jews? Any Jew that converted to Christianity in the time since, is, at least in my mind, forgiven.

But God made it clear time and time again he would never give up on his chosen people, which are the Jews. YOU may have given up on them, but he has NOT.

Jews today still seek the Christ Christians found 2000 years ago. Hope they find him in time.


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I don't think all the folks that claim a Jewish heritage are the same Yote. I think a good majority of them went array during Solomon's reign and have become evil ever since. They just claim a Jewish heritage now because they have become a protected class and it helps give them power and control. It is the perfect lie.


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Originally Posted by Chancey
I don't think all the folks that claim a Jewish heritage are the same Yote. I think a good majority of them went array during Solomon's reign and have become evil ever since. They just claim a Jewish heritage now because they have become a protected class and it helps give them power and control. It is the perfect lie.


Are you talking about the "mud people"?


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Not sure about them, I've never heard of the "mud people."
I'm talking about people that claim to be Jewish, but all their actions are evil, deceitful, and not Christ-like.

The folks that like to quote scripture out of context. Folks like Schumer, Schiff, Mayorkas, Levine, etc......The folks that are heck bent on everything to go to war in Ukraine.


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Of course I forgot Blinken. Real pieces of work. All of them, and that ain't half of them. Plenty more in Europe too!


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