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Re: Running beaver through auction [Re: kytrapper] #8093107
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Do the felters need to know how much fur every beaver has if they are buying them all as lights? Any semi's and heavies are just a bonus. It is not really that complex.


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Re: Running beaver through auction [Re: kytrapper] #8093113
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Good point MJM, I really hadn't thought of it quite that way.


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Re: Running beaver through auction [Re: kytrapper] #8093121
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Its a bonus alright but not for the trapper.


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Re: Running beaver through auction [Re: Boco] #8093122
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Originally Posted by Boco
Its a bonus alright but not for the trapper.

It is for me!


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Re: Running beaver through auction [Re: kytrapper] #8093127
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Its why you can never realize the true value of good fur outside the auction.
If poor fur is intersorted with good fur it all sells low.
Its why trappers started their own auction house to begin with.


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Re: Running beaver through auction [Re: MJM] #8093137
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Originally Posted by MJM
Do the felters need to know how much fur every beaver has if they are buying them all as lights? Any semi's and heavies are just a bonus. It is not really that complex.

South it might be a bonus.

Re: Running beaver through auction [Re: SNIPERBBB] #8093143
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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
Originally Posted by MJM
Do the felters need to know how much fur every beaver has if they are buying them all as lights? Any semi's and heavies are just a bonus. It is not really that complex.

South it might be a bonus.

As long as this hatter market continues to generate the primary beaver demand...then northern heavy beavers will seem to be very undervalued.

But, when the hatter drops....even those northern heavies will be de-valued.


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Re: Running beaver through auction [Re: kytrapper] #8093169
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beaverpeeler ? did the buyer who bought your beaver weight them?

Re: Running beaver through auction [Re: kytrapper] #8093254
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I didn't have the luxury of watching all of the grading but heard tell that two buyers brought scales. Neither one of the two bought my beaver. George Kortum bought my beaver.

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Re: Running beaver through auction [Re: Boco] #8093356
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
The reason the collectors care is the felters have signed contracts with them based on poundage, not sizes or grades.


If these collectors have contracts with the filters based on poundage, they should be heading south and loading up on the thick skinned buggers.

Originally Posted by Boco
Watch the vid NAFA put out on Phil Patterson weighing beaver.
He can tell in a few seconds how much fur in on the pelt.
feels for density and looks at the length same time.Also can tell how much coverage.He points out what is wanted by the felters.and what is no good.


I’m still trying to track down that video. Might email FHA. There’s a fella out east that has one in VHS but can’t find it.

Re: Running beaver through auction [Re: Boco] #8093362
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Originally Posted by Boco
Its why you can never realize the true value of good fur outside the auction.
If poor fur is intersorted with good fur it all sells low.
Its why trappers started their own auction house to begin with.


Was it part of the WFSC video?

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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
Originally Posted by Boco
Its why you can never realize the true value of good fur outside the auction.
If poor fur is intersorted with good fur it all sells low.
Its why trappers started their own auction house to begin with.


Was it part of the WFSC video?

Yes.


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Re: Running beaver through auction [Re: beaverpeeler] #8093384
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
I didn't have the luxury of watching all of the grading but heard tell that two buyers brought scales. Neither one of the two bought my beaver. George Kortum bought my beaver.

So the guy that bought your beaver bid higher than the two that weighed them?


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Re: Running beaver through auction [Re: kytrapper] #8093401
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Start at about the 16 minute mark


Re: Running beaver through auction [Re: kytrapper] #8093414
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this might be it too


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Re: Running beaver through auction [Re: kytrapper] #8093419
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That is a good one but neither one is the one I am referring too
It is the one where Phil Patterson talks about the hatter beaver.and what the felters require.













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Re: Running beaver through auction [Re: kytrapper] #8093438
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How about this one, start at 8:21


Re: Running beaver through auction [Re: beaverpeeler] #8093474
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
I didn't have the luxury of watching all of the grading but heard tell that two buyers brought scales. Neither one of the two bought my beaver. George Kortum bought my beaver.


As you know George is the largest fur buyer in the west. I knew he would be the one who bought your beaver. George does not need a scale. Probably one of the most experienced buyers to ever live. Anyone using a scale is an amature.

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Re: Running beaver through auction [Re: SNIPERBBB] #8093479
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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
How about this one, start at 8:21



Thats the one-
Thanks sniper.
There are still lots of guys that think flat beaver are good for felt,lol.

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Re: Running beaver through auction [Re: kytrapper] #8093515
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Boco,
It sure don't matter what I think about flat beaver. It's what the buyer thinks. Also, I won't ask GFW if he's seen that video.

Why have southern beavers ALWAYS been referred to as hatters?

Maybe that's all these beavers are really good for.

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