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Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Trappin Arkansas] #8090919
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Originally Posted by Trappin Arkansas
Just Remember to knock there teeth out a hog can’t digest teeth lol

Rats even chewed up mostof the Teeth. I know this because on the news they stated that they had to use DNA to find out who it was because the teeth were chewed so bad they could not use Dental Records.


God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8090922
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That is why I liked the old Milwaukee County Sherriff David Clarke. He was smart enough and stated that shooting a Criminal that breaks into your home sends a clear message to the other Criminals that they need a different choice in Careers. We need more of that thinking.


God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: bowhunter27295] #8090971
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Originally Posted by bucksnbears
Mn ain't a liberal state!
The Metro area is.

Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Defending yourself is a concept not many people can relate to. You have an inherent natural desire not to kill someone. There can be a hesitation just because you don't want to kill someone due to the problems it will cause. You just want them to go away.

When you shoot someone it can be like a bad shot on a deer or any other animal. You actually watch them die. Crying, rolling in agony, jerking and at the end probably gurgling and gasping for breath. Be ready for this and know they are nothing but an animal and at that moment, you are also.

I say this not to deter anyone from defending themselves. I say this to prepare you for what may come so you are mentally ready for what will happen after the bullet leaves the barrel. Aim center mass with at least 2-4 shots then 1-2 in the head. That way you will not have to hear any thing out of the person who underestimated you. You will have blood and brain splatter on you. Ignore that and accept it in the moment. You claim to be physically ready. Accept this paragraph as to what you need to do to be mentally ready. I pray to GOD I NEVER have to kill anyone.

I plan to do everything I can to run away.

I hope I NEVER have to defend myself but I work in the armpit of NC in Greensboro. Crime is rising at an alarming rate. I am physically and mentally ready.

I do worry about the court costs though.


I agree to a certain extent. If you see the perp go down after two shots and the threat has been erased, I would not place one to two more shots in the head for good measure especially if there are cameras around. I would say Police are also able to determine the angle of a bullet entering the body. If the perp has the gun not visible under his body while laying on the floor and still moving that may be a different story.

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Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8091191
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As long as there is only one story and the person laying on the ground has a long wrap sheet, things will be in your favor. It doesn't take a genius to know when you're in immediate danger of major injury or death.

Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8091213
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2bit, some states you might be better off to let the outlaw shoot you.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8091215
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I live so far off the beaten path that it would be a hard decision if someone actually came here to my house and made me shoot them. It really seems as if disposing of the body would be a lot easier than dealing with the authorities.

But on the other hand, what if they told their girlfriend/brother/accomplice where they were headed before they died? That could complicate things.


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Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: yotetrapper30] #8091295
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
I live so far off the beaten path that it would be a hard decision if someone actually came here to my house and made me shoot them. It really seems as if disposing of the body would be a lot easier than dealing with the authorities.

But on the other hand, what if they told their girlfriend/brother/accomplice where they were headed before they died? That could complicate things.


Only if they are there at your property also. Maybe the would be intruder had a change of heart and decided to disappear and start a new life. You know, separate themselves from their criminal friends or any bad influence that might look for them.


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Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8091297
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Lawyers and judges try to take deterrence out of the equation and create more crime.


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Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8091311
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I dont worry about a deranged attacker to much where I live. I doubt it ever happens and if it does I doubt I would even be taken for questioning. I am in Kansas City a lot working. Being armed is legal in both KS and MO but only because of state statutes. Both sides of the border your getting taken to jail if your in the metro area. Getting treated like a criminal. Lots of dope fiends and lots of violence. Seems like the worse the criminal activity in an area the more likely you are to face prosecution for self defense. Related? I think so. My plan is to say I had to defend myself. I want to call my lawyer before I say more. No matter what you say your going to jail. So no reason to say anything. And yes, I believe a cop would say "you will be released once I finish my report" to get you talking. To make brownie points they will try to find a way to put a crime on you. Lie to you unabashedly. I really hope I am never put in that position just because thats where a lot of work is.


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Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: danny clifton] #8091741
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
2bit, some states you might be better off to let the outlaw shoot you.

That would be Minnesota for one. They usual side with the criminals when a cop is involved.


Must be nice to eat ice cream as fast as you want and not have to worry about brain freeze.
Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Trapper7] #8091851
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.[/quote]That would be Minnesota for one. They usual side with the criminals when a cop is involved. [/quote]


You got that right!

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