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States that impose you have a duty to retreat #8090062
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A duty to retreat generally means you can’t resort to deadly force in self defense if you can safely retreat if you can safely avoid an imminent danger. If that isn’t an option due to being cornered or pinned down and facing great bodily harm then you may be authorized to use deadly force. The states that have this ruling are Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Massachusetts, Maryland, Maine, Minnesota, Nebraska, New Jersey, New York, North Dakota, Rhode Island and Wisconsin. I was surprised to see Nebraska and North Dakota on this list. Do you believe in this law? I can see the statement “you may be authorized to use” being a big problem especially in Blue States.

Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8090067
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I talk to a guy that lives in Minnesota and you have to runaway or face the law.

Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8090069
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Choot’em here!


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Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8090073
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Arkansas has a stand your ground law !!! But that being said if the imminent danger is retreating you can’t shot them in the back

Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8090075
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In Georgia if you have legal and legitimate right to the spot your standing on then you're free to return fire to your heart's content.


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Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8090077
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But common sense says that if you can safely get somewhere else without needing to fire a shot then that just might be the better option. It just can't be used against you if choose not to.


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Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8090078
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while the WI law doesn't have "Stand your ground" WI law does have "castile doctrine"

WI law also doesn't specifically have a "Duty To Retreat" law either meaning a judge may ask that it be considered in factoring your response to the threat.

and it is outlined in 939.48

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/939/iii/48

the readers digest version
https://www.wicriminaldefense.com/blog/2021/june/wisconsin-stand-your-ground-law/

it is an interesting some of this some of that mix in WI


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Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8090086
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Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8090087
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Nebraska's duty to retreat pertains to public places. If someone is in your house, whack'em. In Minnesota, you have to make an attempt to flee your own home, if an intruder breaks in and leaves you an opening to escape. Our CCW instructor maintains, if you shoot an intruder in your home in Minnesota, you better be putting holes in the front and don't stop shooting until the intruder(s) are no longer breathing.


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Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8090088
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Mo is a stand your ground state, with constitutional and concealed carry. Thank you Jesus!


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Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8090097
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PA has a Castle Doctrine that eliminates the duty to retreat in your home, car or place of work. Several years ago it was expanded to Stand Your Ground statewide except in Philadelphia. Philadelphia adheres to the Castle Doctrine but not the expanded version of it which allows standing your ground outside your home car or business.


Eh...wot?

Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8090098
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I know a gentleman here in GA that held at gunpoint and let police do their job. Only issue is the courts didn’t do there’s. He’s still having to deal with the “guy” that thinks his daughter is somehow “his” property. With that said, if, and I pray I don’t have to, but if someone breaks in my house, they won’t breathe another breath outside of it.

If I’m in public with my family, my only concern is getting my family to safety and avoid any confrontation if possible. The same goes if I’m by myself. Violence will be met with violence only “if” there’s no other way.

My advice is to avoid those situations at all cost, but if it becomes necessary, don’t half butt it, finish it. Also remember what you do stays with you for the rest of your life. I don’t mean following as in people, I mean in your head. No matter what you do, justify it.

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You better have the right insurance if you carry. Self defense can cost you a lot of money and grief.

Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8090105
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Does that apply equally to L,E.?


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Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8090110
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I’m in law Enforcement and where a person works carry insurance just in case things go south while on duty but I myself carry a additional 1million in insurance just in case but that’s just me

Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Mando] #8090174
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Originally Posted by Mando
You better have the right insurance if you carry. Self defense can cost you a lot of money and grief.


Better option is giving up your life ? What good is that money then ?


It’s a lazy man who can’t find his wife a second job !
Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8090184
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I came from no money. I am not scared of going back there just because of taking out someone to protect me and mine.

Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Mando] #8090215
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Originally Posted by Mando
You better have the right insurance if you carry. Self defense can cost you a lot of money and grief.


I had a friend who shot and killed a crazy meth head that had came in his front door from out of the blue. Guy had a butcher knife and Bill center punched him with a 9mm,DRT.
He never left his house to go to the police station or any of the other things people allude to on here all the time. Police chief & sheriff congratulated him for a good shoot.

In Kansas no duty to retreat, constitutional carry, anywhere I can legally be I can defend myself and others if need be. Also no civil liability can be sought against you by the criminals family. No ghetto lottery winners here.

Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: 2poor] #8090222
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Originally Posted by Mando
You better have the right insurance if you carry. Self defense can cost you a lot of money and grief.


Better option is giving up your life ? What good is that money then ?

You're not understanding. It's insurance to pay the lawyers and court fees if you shoot someone.

Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8090225
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If L.E. had to operate under the same duty to retreat, law would be repealed in about 3 seconds


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