400,000 dead in Ukraine
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According to Tucker...yes or no? Sure don't hear about it anymore.
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Re: 400,000 dead in Ukraine
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Hard to say. In war both sides will tend to over report the other sides casualties/losses and underreport their own. One thing I think we can say for sure is that both sides are getting mauled & we should be thankful the US involvement has been so far limited to money & weapons. No troops, at least not publicly or at a level beyond advisor status. Hopefully it stays that way.
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Re: 400,000 dead in Ukraine
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What a waste. U.S funded this meat grinder and for what? So the Big Man can get his 15%.
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Re: 400,000 dead in Ukraine
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What a waste. U.S funded this meat grinder and for what? So the Big Man can get his 15%. Better then our guys carrying their water that’s one good thing about it.
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Re: 400,000 dead in Ukraine
[Re: Gary Benson]
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The Ukraine is a strange war. We only hear bits and pieces about it. Russia killing civilians or Ukrainians killing Russians. Same with the war in Gaza ! Seems only news we get is news to divide opinion.
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Re: 400,000 dead in Ukraine
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I'm of the opinion that helping Ukraine stand up to a bully is morally the right thing to be doing.
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Re: 400,000 dead in Ukraine
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I'm of the opinion that helping Ukraine stand up to a bully is morally the right thing to be doing. The one payment of 87 billion could have given every American adult 2million dollars and still had 86 billion left. That's only one payment that went to them.
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Re: 400,000 dead in Ukraine
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I'm of the opinion that helping Ukraine stand up to a bully is morally the right thing to be doing. It appears to me that we’re only paying for a meat grinder, average age in their forces is 43… they’re out of 18+ year olds. You ready to fight?
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Re: 400,000 dead in Ukraine
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I'm of the opinion that helping Ukraine stand up to a bully is morally the right thing to be doing. The one payment of 87 billion could have given every American adult 2million dollars and still had 86 billion left. That's only one payment that went to them. I think your math is off.
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Re: 400,000 dead in Ukraine
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I'm of the opinion that helping Ukraine stand up to a bully is morally the right thing to be doing. The one payment of 87 billion could have given every American adult 2million dollars and still had 86 billion left. That's only one payment that went to them. I get the gist of what you're saying but your math is wrong. To give 2 million to each of the 258 million adults in America would require 516 trillion. 87 billion divided between the adult population of the US would be $337.
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Re: 400,000 dead in Ukraine
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It's a war that should never of been. But it was set up at least 12 years ago.
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Re: 400,000 dead in Ukraine
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The Ukraine is a strange war. We only hear bits and pieces about it. Russia killing civilians or Ukrainians killing Russians. Same with the war in Gaza ! Seems only news we get is news to divide opinion. We've seen more footage out of the gaza/hamas conflict or gang bang shootings that we have out of the russo-ukraine war. I guess we dont have embedded war journalists anymore.
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Re: 400,000 dead in Ukraine
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Knowing of what was on Hunter's laptop should give a strong indication that neither our blood nor treasure should be involved in this conflict. That's not even considering the refusal of .gov to secure our borders.
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Re: 400,000 dead in Ukraine
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I'm of the opinion that helping Ukraine stand up to a bully is morally the right thing to be doing. Great theory, if only that is what we were actually doing. What we are doing is making rich corrupt politicians and war mongers even richer. It's a big joke, and the joke is on us.
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Re: 400,000 dead in Ukraine
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I'm of the opinion that helping Ukraine stand up to a bully is morally the right thing to be doing. Think about the hundreds of thousands of people that would still be alive if we hadn't provided more than 100 billion dollars to prolong the war. Think about the amount of good that money could do right here in the USA.
Eh...wot?
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Re: 400,000 dead in Ukraine
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We need a president that wants to extract the U.S. from foreign entanglements. The problem is money. Even more than the narcotics trade.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: 400,000 dead in Ukraine
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I’ve heard lots of estimates around 500,000 casualties. Not sure the total deaths, but an entire generation of young men is gone.
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Re: 400,000 dead in Ukraine
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Right, or wrong notwithstanding in helping fund that war, I get a kick out of the comments that the money could have done so much here for Americans and the border situation. Sure it would, but does anyone really think It ever would have been spent for the benefit of this country? Of course not, but it's nice to think about what could be done if that money wasn't going into politician's pockets.
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Re: 400,000 dead in Ukraine
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Right, or wrong notwithstanding in helping fund that war, I get a kick out of the comments that the money could have done so much here for Americans and the border situation. Sure it would, but does anyone really think It ever would have been spent for the benefit of this country? Brilliant comment!
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Re: 400,000 dead in Ukraine
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Let's look at some of the results of the U.S actions
Stronger north Korea with a new Russian ally Brics nations banding together to try and knock the dollar off as the dominate payment EU farmers going broke due to flooding the countries with cheap Ukraine goods. Cost atleast 75 billion from U.S alone Russia further beholden to the real threat to the west, China 400,000+ dead
Someone tell me the positives. Texas exports of lng to europe up 300 percent.
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Re: 400,000 dead in Ukraine
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Let's look at some of the results of the U.S actions
Stronger north Korea with a new Russian ally Brics nations banding together to try and knock the dollar off as the dominate payment EU farmers going broke due to flooding the countries with cheap Ukraine goods. Cost atleast 75 billion from U.S alone Russia further beholden to the real threat to the west, China 400,000+ dead
Someone tell me the positives. Texas exports of lng to europe up 300 percent. As long as oil corporations profit what's 400,000+ lives.
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Re: 400,000 dead in Ukraine
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Don't ask a question, if you don't want an answer.
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Re: 400,000 dead in Ukraine
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The House needs to stand firm and not give another cent to Ukraine unless our borders are shut down first. That's a greater problem than worrying about the war in Ukraine.
Must be nice to eat ice cream as fast as you want and not have to worry about brain freeze.
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Re: 400,000 dead in Ukraine
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Don't ask a question, if you don't want an answer. I don't see how exporting a valuable and limited resource is a good thing long term. Yes, short term it boost TX oil producers profits, may as well invade Iraq again if that's the purpose of funding the meat grinder
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Re: 400,000 dead in Ukraine
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Don't ask a question, if you don't want an answer. I don't see how exporting a valuable and limited resource is a good thing long term. I think it's a good thing. Pay me a sweet dividend every 3 months. Also, it's not really limited. We can sell it or flare it off.
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Re: 400,000 dead in Ukraine
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Yet even our enemies feared Trump then Demented Joe comes in and FUNDS these wars through our enemies.
God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
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