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Re: #1 coil spring question [Re: Wolfdog91] #8076153
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I never saw that #1 dukes were "to strong". Strong yes, but I use them for rats and mink without any problem at all.

Re: #1 coil spring question [Re: Wolfdog91] #8076158
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I took duke 1.5 pans, trimmed the lever side a touch with tin snips and you have a nice big pan on then.

Re: #1 coil spring question [Re: Wolfdog91] #8076164
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I do tend to think that some #1 coilsprings tend to have more spring strength than they really need for the animals that are usually targeted with them. I've put my hand in both Bridger & Duke #1's, and subjectively, to me, they grip more tightly than a 1.5 coilspring does. Given that that coons tend to be the largest animal commonly targeted with #1 coils I'm not sure why that's the case. I do think either laminations or a bit less spring strength wouldn't hurt either Duke or Bridger #1 coils.

Re: #1 coil spring question [Re: Wolfdog91] #8076165
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I'm no trap guru, but can't you cut a coil off the spring to "weaken" it?

Re: #1 coil spring question [Re: Wolfdog91] #8076167
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Less coils usually means stronger.

Re: #1 coil spring question [Re: gcs] #8076177
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Originally Posted by gcs
I'm no trap guru, but can't you cut a coil off the spring to "weaken" it?


No you can't, you need both ends of the trap spring to mount the springs.

Originally Posted by gcs
Why a coilspring? jillions of critters caught in #1 longsprings, easy to set too.


Less holding power with a spring only on one side to hold the animal. A #11 is more comparable to a #1 coil, but they may just hold even better.

Re: #1 coil spring question [Re: Wolfdog91] #8076190
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Here's an example or taking away a coil....

Say each coil deflects 1 degree for every ten pound of pressure. If you have 2 coils with ten lbs applied, you'll get 2 degrees of deflection, 3 degrees for three coils, ect.

Re: #1 coil spring question [Re: Wolfdog91] #8076545
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Over powered for what? Great little coon trap.

For anything, why that little trap has that much dang power is beyond me I rather get caught into a #3cs than thos little things that and I've had some rat trappers tell em horror stories about them


Once again, it reads like you started a post with no actual experience using them. I've caught 100s of coon in them and #11s. My go to traps in shallow water coon trapping. These horror stories you speak of by other trappers. Good first hand knowledge.

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Carroll Black had some #1NW that he four-coiled at a convention in the 80s and very few people could set them, mostly because of the short levers. He claimed he never lost a coon in one.

Re: #1 coil spring question [Re: Wolfdog91] #8076863
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That was the thing with CDR's, they were/are very strong but thos small wire levers made them hard to get hold of. I could set them over my knee but nver would, especially out in the water.. I knew if I got one of them on me I was screwed. I have a few mb750's just as strong as CDR's but I could set them fine because of the bigger levers..


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