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Old blacksmith made trap #8043437
01/08/24 08:29 AM
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A friend gave me this trap. He got it at an auction near Eau Claire, WI. Looks blacksmith made to me. I think it had two springs originally, and I don't think the horseshoe nails were the original wedges for the jaw posts. I can't make out any stamping or letters on the pan or the springs.

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Re: Old blacksmith made trap [Re: k snow] #8043439
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Here are a few more pictures.

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Re: Old blacksmith made trap [Re: k snow] #8043751
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Old one for sure

Re: Old blacksmith made trap [Re: k snow] #8045891
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Check on the bottom of the frame for markings or names.

Re: Old blacksmith made trap [Re: k snow] #8046105
01/11/24 02:14 AM
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Holding the trap together with pins, nails or wedges is old construction, so is the single pin jaw posts. This trap goes back to atleast 1830 maybe even late 1700s

Re: Old blacksmith made trap [Re: lots of mink] #8046184
01/11/24 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by backroadsarcher
Check on the bottom of the frame for markings or names.


I'll look for any markings this evening.

Originally Posted by lots of mink
Holding the trap together with pins, nails or wedges is old construction, so is the single pin jaw posts. This trap goes back to atleast 1830 maybe even late 1700s


That construction is neat for sure. I would like to know what the original wedges looked like. The horseshoe nails just don't look right, and there is a lot of movement in the jaw posts.

Re: Old blacksmith made trap [Re: k snow] #8046742
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Looked at the trap for a while this evening. I can't find any marking in the frame or springs. There may be a faint small 8 on the pan, but that might just be my imagination and the rust pattern on the pan.

Re: Old blacksmith made trap [Re: k snow] #8046829
01/12/24 01:39 AM
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You should try to find a spring for it. There’s lots of handforged springs loose.

Re: Old blacksmith made trap [Re: k snow] #8054841
01/19/24 10:56 PM
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Don't know if this would help, but this could be a possibility.


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Re: Old blacksmith made trap [Re: dustytinner] #8057085
01/22/24 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by dustytinner
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Don't know if this would help, but this could be a possibility.


Any ideas where that might be available? Looks very interesting.

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Re: Old blacksmith made trap [Re: k snow] #8072584
02/09/24 10:04 AM
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I was able to purchase a copy of the book a few posts above. Excellent book, but no insights as to the maker of the trap I have.

I believe it was in Gerstell's book, where it was said that many hand-forged traps will never be identified. Too many makers, too little information.

Re: Old blacksmith made trap [Re: k snow] #8073976
02/10/24 10:31 PM
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I owned a Newton hand forged trap for quite some time. Mine was missing the pan but it was built similar to what yours was. My trap was stamped on the bottom of the base plate.

Re: Old blacksmith made trap [Re: backroadsarcher] #8075173
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Originally Posted by backroadsarcher
I owned a Newton hand forged trap for quite some time. Mine was missing the pan but it was built similar to what yours was. My trap was stamped on the bottom of the base plate.


Yes, according to the book, his traps were typically stamped on the bottom of the frame and both springs. I can't find any evidence of stamping at all.

The jaws are also pinned with a single pin on mine. A trait not seen on any known Newton traps.

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