How much glycerin is too much?
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I have some bobcat meat that I bought from Minnesota Trap Line. It’s a little dry. When trying to get it a good consistency can you just use glycerin or is there such a thing as too much glycerin in a meat bait?
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Re: How much glycerin is too much?
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Buy some trout oil from Bob Jameson. Glycerin lowers the freezing point. You don't really need that a lot of time. It actually reduces volitivity and is not an attractant. Good fish oil, (a lot of it is junk) is a great attractant and adds to a meat baits attractiveness. If you can get hold of some spoonbill or catfish belly fat it renders down into a really great product also.
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Re: How much glycerin is too much?
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So I can buy the fish oil add it to the bobcat meet to get the consistency I would like and then keep it in my garage cool and out of the sunlight and it should be good for next season as well? The bobcat meat is already preserved.
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Re: How much glycerin is too much?
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Buy some trout oil from Bob Jameson. Glycerin lowers the freezing point. You don't really need that a lot of time. It actually reduces volitivity and is not an attractant. Good fish oil, (a lot of it is junk) is a great attractant and adds to a meat baits attractiveness. If you can get hold of some spoonbill or catfish belly fat it renders down into a really great product also. I like glycerin because it keeps stuff from freezing and unfrozen stuff smells stronger. Plus trying to get frozen lure or bait out of a jar can really raise a guys blood pressure. But Danny is correct, glycerin has no attraction of its own and if you don't need the antifreeze properties you are just diluting your bait.
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Re: How much glycerin is too much?
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Thanks guys. I’m ordering some fish oil.
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Re: How much glycerin is too much?
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Thanks YS. I have ordered the fish oil and am going to try that. I mixed up some pint jars with glycerin and they seem to do ok but I am not 100% sure that the amount I was using was hurting more than helping. I will mix the meat with the fish oil and we shall go from there. I highly doubt I will need the glycerin in my area. We do get pretty cold here in the higher country but not that cold.
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Re: How much glycerin is too much?
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Cattle have a nose like a bloodhound. EVERYTHING makes em curious. Fish oil is in every liquid protein I am aware of. Coyotes routinely lick those wheels too. Fired traps are IMO something you live with trapping cow pastures.
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Re: How much glycerin is too much?
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Cattle have a nose like a bloodhound. EVERYTHING makes em curious. Fish oil is in every liquid protein I am aware of. Coyotes routinely lick those wheels too. Fired traps are IMO something you live with trapping cow pastures. Same with deer. People say ingredient or that attracts more deer, but I've never found a top shelf coyote ingredient that doesn't attract deer. And I've looked. Even straight coyote glands attract the deer even though a lot of time on camera they jump when they first smell it if they are close. After there first initial bit of fear they must realize there isn't a coyote there then their darn curiosity kicks in. Going to quit making mock scrapes at my deer stands and just start putting in coyote sets. Lol
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Re: How much glycerin is too much?
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if the meat is preserved just put a tight lid on it and put it away.
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Re: How much glycerin is too much?
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Cattle have a nose like a bloodhound. EVERYTHING makes em curious. Fish oil is in every liquid protein I am aware of. Coyotes routinely lick those wheels too. Fired traps are IMO something you live with trapping cow pastures. There is a reason USDA = has a mandate against = fish oil. Or fish oil based baits or lures used on M-44s. I spend as much time in cattle as anyone. And I know for a fact. Fish oil is the WORST thing you can use in cattle
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Re: How much glycerin is too much?
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if the meat is preserved just put a tight lid on it and put it away. Thanks
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Cattle have a nose like a bloodhound. EVERYTHING makes em curious. Fish oil is in every liquid protein I am aware of. Coyotes routinely lick those wheels too. Fired traps are IMO something you live with trapping cow pastures. There is a reason USDA = has a mandate against = fish oil. Or fish oil based baits or lures used on M-44s. I spend as much time in cattle as anyone. And I know for a fact. Fish oil is the WORST thing you can use in cattle This is interesting. I guess it is a good thing that I don’t have to deal with cattle.
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Aargh! X2 was to Seth's post, the quote didnt post (I assume operator error). Cattle have a nose like a bloodhound. EVERYTHING makes em curious. Fish oil is in every liquid protein I am aware of. Coyotes routinely lick those wheels too. Fired traps are IMO something you live with trapping cow pastures. Same with deer. People say ingredient or that attracts more deer, but I've never found a top shelf coyote ingredient that doesn't attract deer. And I've looked. Even straight coyote glands attract the deer even though a lot of time on camera they jump when they first smell it if they are close. After there first initial bit of fear they must realize there isn't a coyote there then their darn curiosity kicks in. Going to quit making mock scrapes at my deer stands and just start putting in coyote sets. Lol
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Re: How much glycerin is too much?
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Some of you may not know but lots of beef producers use "licks". A tub with a lid that has wheels on top. The bottom of the wheel in a liquid supplement. Molasses is usually one of the ingredients also. Cows (and coyotes) lick the wheels. Cows sure enough get used to slurping on fish oil. Just like yes sirs deer though they want to sniff everything.
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Re: How much glycerin is too much?
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You can store it in a cool, or shaded spot. I store mine on a shelf in a shed. It gets to 95 in the summer, and below freezing in the winter. Made a couple different batches in 5 gal buckets 6 or 7 years ago, and they just keep getting better. I'll probably never use all I have. Same with quality urine. I add some glycerin to it, and keep it in a 5 gal bucket with the lid on, and store it in the same shed.
I trap in freezing weather, so bait, lure, and urine get spiked with glycerin.
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Re: How much glycerin is too much?
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methyl paraben is good for preventing mold
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Re: How much glycerin is too much?
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So I mixed the 2 gallons of bobcat meat with 1/2 gallon of fish oil. Consistency is really good. That sun rendered fish oil is unlike anything I have smelled before. Pretty great stuff. I’m excited to use it and see how it does. I do have a question about storage. Do I just keep it out of the heat or does it need to be refrigerated or frozen. I’m assuming not but just want to be sure I don’t want to waste my product. Wildturkey, this is a Better option for you imho. Sun rendered oil has a much stronger smell.
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Re: How much glycerin is too much?
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Looks like trout is the one most are using. It doesn't have to be trout oil. Trout oil is superior to pressed oil. Bob sells a good product. Letting those big gobs of fat in the abdomen of spoonbill or flatheads, self render or even rendered on a low heat on the stove are good too.
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The paddlefish research station in Miami OK is closed. I believe that is where Carlis got what he sold. Lots of laws governing spoonbill. Might not be legal to sell paddle fish parts from fish you caught with a sport license.
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last guy I knew selling paddlefish oil was Matt Jones but he's a commercial fisherman so he has more access. We can harvest paddlefish here in Ky
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We can only sport fish for them here. 2 month season and 6 tags a year. There really are a lot of regs on selling paddlefish parts due to the caviar. One good male will have a quart plus of oil after the fat is rendered.
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here in Ky we can sportfish and catch 2 per day, commercial fisherman can get a license to commercially catch roe bearing fish like paddlefish, though they must fill out a daily report of what they catch..I don't know what their limit is I wish I lived a part of Ky where there was a good population
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