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Re: Question for experenced mole trappers [Re: varmintshooter] #8071306
02/07/24 06:28 PM
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How straight are the mounded runs? Are you setting in the tunnel or the waste chutes?

Re: Question for experenced mole trappers [Re: EatenByLimestone] #8071318
02/07/24 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by EatenByLimestone
How straight are the mounded runs? Are you setting in the tunnel or the waste chutes?


Attempting to follow down the waste or connecting the dots to get to the lateral run but the ground conditions are horrible with the amount of rain we've gotten. More like digging in putty.

Hard to tell any sort of direction other than most seem to run side to rather than up or down slope. With new mounds popping up every few days I'm suspecting they aren't regularly reusing the tunnels.


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Re: Question for experenced mole trappers [Re: varmintshooter] #8071493
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Normally if the moles up here put the effort into excavating a deep tunnel they’re going to use it again, but as with any animal they’re gonna do what they want. If they’re moving around that much, maybe the food isn’t there to keep them in an area.

Re: Question for experenced mole trappers [Re: EatenByLimestone] #8071518
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Originally Posted by EatenByLimestone
Normally if the moles up here put the effort into excavating a deep tunnel they’re going to use it again, but as with any animal they’re gonna do what they want. If they’re moving around that much, maybe the food isn’t there to keep them in an area.


That's the deal here. While we do have earthworms we don't have the big nightcrawler/dew worms of the Midwest. Ours are red wigglers.

So most mole work is those highly amended lawns adjacent to woodlands/leaf litter. Plain clay doesn't support lots of biomass. Typically one or two and done as our soils can't support huge numbers.

Almost all jobs here are a large area of meandering feeding runs just under the sod. The key is identifying the straight runs back to cover, usually the wood line or brushy landscaping. I catch them on the straight runs and hard edge runs.

I kind of figure deep runs are more than likely part of the core network vs feeding.


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Re: Question for experenced mole trappers [Re: varmintshooter] #8071705
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Up here, deep angle runs surfacing to large clean out mounds generally indicate nest chamber construction or developing deep tunnel feeding runs.

These types of activity runs are usually created when the food source has been pushed deeper due to surface temps, conditions or a food source level has been located requiring excavation of material to continue feeding in that zone until it has been depleted.

Some deeper soil conditions can be seen in the color of the excavated material. This can give you indicators as to their depth of operation.

Re: Question for experenced mole trappers [Re: wws] #8072061
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Originally Posted by wws
Steve I have not tried that but will. With the OOS traps being so poorly made now I need to order a bunch of yours. I have a couple big jobs coming up soon. That should give me time to really get better at using your traps. I was taught by a Mennonite farmer 30 years ago with OOS traps, old habits are hard to get rid of.




Would be happy to sell you as many traps as you can use. Also, we do make a "magnum" size gophinator which works well on the Camas pocket gophers, not sure if you've used that or not. I did some trapping up there many years ago and know how big those guys are. And I do happen to have a bunch of OOS traps that are new and still in box, but were bought around 7 or 8 years ago, prior to the changes in how they're made. If you are interested in some of those, happy to sell them for like $12 each. I think I have around 100 of them.

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