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What % of coon do you loose in DP traps? #8048279
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Iv lost several that had a little hair in opening thinking they might have hit dog from out side before being fully committed. Had a couple get out thinking grabbed on to something for leverage. Last one on trail cam in open field was there and chewed off in less than 6 hours.

Re: What % of coon do you loose in DP traps? [Re: BC-Buck] #8048292
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I've never had a coon chew in a DP. They chew sometimes in a regular foothold because they can access the numb part of their toes/foot. They WILL NOT chew a part of their foot that still has feeling.

Dont know where you got that from...


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Re: What % of coon do you loose in DP traps? [Re: BC-Buck] #8048364
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I have seen chewing in dps above the trap many times. Sometimes severely. I suspect those particular animals were not right due to diesease.

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Re: What % of coon do you loose in DP traps? [Re: BC-Buck] #8048402
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I've seen chewing above the dog proof as well. But not often.

I still set them.

Re: What % of coon do you loose in DP traps? [Re: BC-Buck] #8048417
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I've been using a lot of DPs for a long time and have had 3 pull outs.

Re: What % of coon do you loose in DP traps? [Re: BC-Buck] #8048559
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If my dp"s are sprung there has been a coon in them.

Re: What % of coon do you loose in DP traps? [Re: trapdog1] #8048735
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
I've been using a lot of DPs for a long time and have had 3 pull outs.


I don't know if I've even lost 3 EVER. I did lose two in a culvert opening that I had staked outside the culvert so it would be easy to dispatch. The trap just reached the corner of the culvert and when the coons went inside the spring hit just right on the end of the culvert and when they pulled, it compressed the spring, releasing the coon. I didn't figure it out until the second coon. This is why I won't tie off to trees. They wrap around the tree until the spring rests against the tree. Always best to stake away from entanglement of any kind. The only other DP's I have had tripped and empty were from thieves or dogs pulling the coons out of the traps.

Re: What % of coon do you loose in DP traps? [Re: ~ADC~] #8048859
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Originally Posted by trapdog1
I've been using a lot of DPs for a long time and have had 3 pull outs.


I don't know if I've even lost 3 EVER. I did lose two in a culvert opening that I had staked outside the culvert so it would be easy to dispatch. The trap just reached the corner of the culvert and when the coons went inside the spring hit just right on the end of the culvert and when they pulled, it compressed the spring, releasing the coon. I didn't figure it out until the second coon. This is why I won't tie off to trees. They wrap around the tree until the spring rests against the tree. Always best to stake away from entanglement of any kind. The only other DP's I have had tripped and empty were from thieves or dogs pulling the coons out of the traps.

Yep, all three were due to entanglements - getting wrapped up in something that provided the coon leverage to pull or compressing the spring against something. I also avoid tying off to anything, but instead of rebar I run Berkshires on mine.

Re: What % of coon do you loose in DP traps? [Re: BC-Buck] #8048906
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I don't often use DPs but when I do there is a coon still in it if he was ever caught.

Had a leg once but suspect a coyote or other varmint got the rest

Re: What % of coon do you loose in DP traps? [Re: BC-Buck] #8049257
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Haven’t lost a coon out of a duke DP yet, and that is a jillion catches.
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Re: What % of coon do you loose in DP traps? [Re: BC-Buck] #8049586
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I have NEVER lost a coon in a DP.

I have NEVER had a chew out in a DP.

I have set on the edge of a little tiny creek and got about 3-4” of rain overnight that had me wading to get a drowned coon in the creek. If there was ever a time to chew, that would’ve been it.

I use earth anchors and even just cable off to trees and haven’t lost any either way. I have had the cable so wrapped around cover I thought I’d never get it untangled. And I’ve had them about head high up the same tree, but never lost one.

Curious what DP’s y’all are using where you lose them and how long between checks on chew outs? We have a 24hr check law here.

Re: What % of coon do you loose in DP traps? [Re: Wanna Be] #8049718
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
I have NEVER lost a coon in a DP.

I have NEVER had a chew out in a DP.

I have set on the edge of a little tiny creek and got about 3-4” of rain overnight that had me wading to get a drowned coon in the creek. If there was ever a time to chew, that would’ve been it.

I use earth anchors and even just cable off to trees and haven’t lost any either way. I have had the cable so wrapped around cover I thought I’d never get it untangled. And I’ve had them about head high up the same tree, but never lost one.

Curious what DP’s y’all are using where you lose them and how long between checks on chew outs? We have a 24hr check law here.



My experience mirrors your WB.

I have 120 Ztraps. Been using them for 8 or 10 years. I have had a fired DP still standing up a time or two.... Mice or rats....I'm sure. Have also captured a field mouse or 3. Have had deer kick them over.

I stake most DPs (at deer feeders)....1/2" x 20" rebar single stake.

Along creeks/branches, I half-hitch to trees.

I have never captured a coon and it pull out.

Did have a large gator remove most of a caught coon from a Ztrap. What a bloody mess.


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Re: What % of coon do you loose in DP traps? [Re: BC-Buck] #8049739
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I had half a rat one time. I didn’t know rats got that big or how he fit down that hole, but it was nasty getting the rest of him out. Caught plenty of other rats and flying squirrels. If bait is gone without tripping the trap I’ll set it with a hair trigger and have one of the above mentioned. I’ve found if I set the trap in water it cuts down on the above mentioned as well.

Re: What % of coon do you loose in DP traps? [Re: BC-Buck] #8049740
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I don't catch hundreds of coons a year, but have never lost one. Never lost one due to chew off i use only z-traps. If the dp was sprung, there was a coon in it

Re: What % of coon do you loose in DP traps? [Re: BC-Buck] #8049745
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When I really ran for coon I'd loose probably 2 a season In dps entanglement issue manily ..don't know how but I've had 2 dps with the coon foot in the trap no coon heck of a pull out there an no didn't look like something ate the coon in the trap just somehow pulled out leaving thy arm....oh I did have one climb a tree an then fell out causing it to pull out of the trap I mainly run Duke an ztraps

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Re: What % of coon do you loose in DP traps? [Re: BC-Buck] #8049835
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Less than 1 per 1000

Re: What % of coon do you loose in DP traps? [Re: Keystonekiller] #8049983
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Originally Posted by Keystonekiller
..don't know how but I've had 2 dps with the coon foot in the trap no coon heck of a pull out there an no didn't look like something ate the coon in the trap just somehow pulled out leaving thy arm...


Dogs will pull them out, but more than likely the trap lost its ability to swivel and the coon twisted until it either pulled out or probably got it loose from the entanglement then after the damage was done it was able to run to the end and pull it off. This will happen if you leave your rebar stakes out of the ground so the springs get caught on it, or if you push your trap into hard ground too far, or if it partially freezes the stabilizer in the ground. I figured this out when I had a skunk foot in a DP and it was never pulled from the grund. A farmer near here couldn't get the stabilizer in the floor of his hay loft so he wired it straight to one of the beams up there, asked me why they were "chewing" out. I never push my DP's in further than 1/2 way up the stabilizers.

Re: What % of coon do you loose in DP traps? [Re: BC-Buck] #8050338
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Interesting most all my dps are cabled off to trees trying to stay clear of entanglement but dosnt always work out ...I've seen where I would cable off on the high bank trail coon get caught an dive down over an pulling out that way too ..I put a mid chain swivel on all my dps as well but yeah I'd have to say that foot in the trap was from twisting pulling an breaking out makes sense

Re: What % of coon do you loose in DP traps? [Re: BC-Buck] #8050372
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I've taken a lot of coons in DP's. I've only lost 2, not due to pull out or chewing. If the ground freezes with the staked trap a twist off happens. I've only used pull only DP's. Lil grizz and Duke DP's.

Re: What % of coon do you loose in DP traps? [Re: BC-Buck] #8050463
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I lost one last night in a DP that makes 4 so far. I'm about done with DPs.

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