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Agri-laser #8042235
01/06/24 10:04 PM
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Anyone got any input?

Vultures

Submitting a quote this week for the initial haze but they're going to need a long term program.

Been in discussion with the factory rep this week. Would love to hear in the field reports.


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Re: Agri-laser [Re: warrior] #8042275
01/06/24 10:40 PM
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Like using A = AN/Peq-15 laser to blind them?

Re: Agri-laser [Re: warrior] #8042319
01/06/24 11:39 PM
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Birds perceive the laser spot as a solid object approaching and move.

This is an automated system on a motorized gimbal that you program for time and pattern. Runs off wired current or solar/battery.

I'm seeing lots of use for waterfowl, pigeons, starlings, etc. Mostly agricultural and around airport facilities.

Nothing on black vultures though the manufacturer says it works on them but they are harder to move off a foodsource.


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Re: Agri-laser [Re: warrior] #8042326
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This device.

https://birdcontrolgroup.com/automated-laser-bird-repellent/

This site has had an ongoing issue since before 2014, the last time they pulled a permit, and they got lax and don't have the staff to full time haze. Propane cannon isn't even effective anymore.

I can bust my tail and get them off the site but they need longer answers.


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Re: Agri-laser [Re: warrior] #8042327
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It's not cheap so I'm hesitant to talk them into half measures.


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Re: Agri-laser [Re: warrior] #8043477
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Lasers around an airport will require a special permit I would guess.

Western Wildlife Services

Re: Agri-laser [Re: warrior] #8044146
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Not an issue on this site.


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Re: Agri-laser [Re: warrior] #8045974
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Finding and eliminating the nearby food source is the most effective way to persuade vultures to roost somewhere else. Large roosts which pop up out of nowhere are usually due to a reliable, nearby food source. It can be as simple as a shopping mall with wide open dumpsters outside of every restaurant or grocery store, or a dairy farmer who isn't burying dead cows in a timely manner.
Shooting several of them while they are on the roost is also very effective. You will need a USFWS migratory bird permit to do that. Contact your closest USDA Wildlife Services office. They will provide you with the permit form, and do a site visit to confirm that you have done adequate nonlethal methods as required for the USFWS to authorize your permit.
You can expect a lengthy wait for the USFWS to issue the permit. Wildlife Services are pretty quick to respond to setting you up with the permitting process.

Re: Agri-laser [Re: 52Carl] #8046053
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Originally Posted by 52Carl
Finding and eliminating the nearby food source is the most effective way to persuade vultures to roost somewhere else. Large roosts which pop up out of nowhere are usually due to a reliable, nearby food source. It can be as simple as a shopping mall with wide open dumpsters outside of every restaurant or grocery store, or a dairy farmer who isn't burying dead cows in a timely manner.
Shooting several of them while they are on the roost is also very effective. You will need a USFWS migratory bird permit to do that. Contact your closest USDA Wildlife Services office. They will provide you with the permit form, and do a site visit to confirm that you have done adequate nonlethal methods as required for the USFWS to authorize your permit.
You can expect a lengthy wait for the USFWS to issue the permit. Wildlife Services are pretty quick to respond to setting you up with the permitting process.


Already on it. Got the form 37 and permit application submitted.

Landfill so no doing away with the foodsource.

I'm looking for something longer lasting once the shooting and effigies are done that doesn't involve them paying me until eternity to move effigies and pop shellcrackers.


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What are they roosting on?

Re: Agri-laser [Re: warrior] #8046811
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Treeline around the site, sunning at the retention ponds. Feeding at the open face. They are couch potatoes.
Excess fecal in the ponds is the primary.


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Re: Agri-laser [Re: warrior] #8046906
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Hazed a lot of swans off a pond with a green light laser.
It was government/ fund work, thinking they bid buy me the best


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