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Re: Lawsuit on behalf of Ashley Babbit family [Re: white marlin] #8043059
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Originally Posted by white marlin
Originally Posted by Blaine County


The J6 rioters are the equivalent of BLM and ANTIFA. All are potential targets in a riot.


I think I recall you arguing that Rittenhouse should be charged/convicted. that doesn't jive with your CURRENT statement, does it?


What are you talking about? I said what I meant in plain English.

As for Rittenhouse, I was glad he was acquitted. He's not the brightest bulb, but those rioters had it coming.

P.S. I also mean it when I say that the MAGA disciples act and think just like the BLM and ANTIFA types. Basically the same people now--just different things that they whine and complain about constantly. It's embarrassing.

Re: Lawsuit on behalf of Ashley Babbit family [Re: James] #8043063
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Originally Posted by James
Originally Posted by Boco
Im surprized only one got shot.
You would think the law would have opened up on a mob trying to get in and hang Mike Pence.
Like the National Guard did in Ohio.


I agree. The cops should have shot a few more of them.

Jim

That's where we're at as a country. I wouldn't have shed a tear had multiple Antifa types had been mowed down.

Re: Lawsuit on behalf of Ashley Babbit family [Re: martentrapper] #8043064
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I just got home and turned on the news. Apparently Trump is calling those convicted in connection with J6 "hostages."

Is it the position of the MAGA Church of Tman that no crimes were committed by the J6 rioting idiots and that none of them should have gone to jail? Are they all "hostages"?

Re: Lawsuit on behalf of Ashley Babbit family [Re: martentrapper] #8043065
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if I mischaracterized your take on Rittenhouse, I stand corrected.

Re: Lawsuit on behalf of Ashley Babbit family [Re: white marlin] #8043069
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Originally Posted by white marlin
if I mischaracterized your take on Rittenhouse, I stand corrected.


You did, but I forgive you.

Re: Lawsuit on behalf of Ashley Babbit family [Re: martentrapper] #8043076
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BC,

there are a lot of J6'ers who were grossly over-charged. Not all, certainly; but many.

then you have Ray Epps....

Re: Lawsuit on behalf of Ashley Babbit family [Re: Blaine County] #8043079
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
I just got home and turned on the news. Apparently Trump is calling those convicted in connection with J6 "hostages."

Is it the position of the MAGA Church of Tman that no crimes were committed by the J6 rioting idiots and that none of them should have gone to jail? Are they all "hostages"?


Seeing how it has come to light that protesters in an area designated for them were fired upon without provocation, I can’t condemn their response.


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Re: Lawsuit on behalf of Ashley Babbit family [Re: white marlin] #8043085
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Originally Posted by white marlin
BC,

there are a lot of J6'ers who were grossly over-charged. Not all, certainly; but many.

then you have Ray Epps....


That is a reasonable point that could be considered. But, your boy isn't distinguishing between them when he gives speeches calling them all "hostages".

He is misleading his flock. Again.

It's like Ashli Babbitt. I'm not saying that there were not other options--and based on what I have seen lethal force could be one of them. But let's not pretend she was just a tourist walking through the capital and was gunned down for no reason.

Re: Lawsuit on behalf of Ashley Babbit family [Re: Blaine County] #8043091
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
But, your boy isn't distinguishing between them when he gives speeches calling them all "hostages". He is misleading his flock. Again.
Is it the position of the MAGA Church of Tman that no crimes were committed by the J6 rioting idiots and that none of them should have gone to jail? Are they all "hostages"?


so, let's talk about standards, shall we?

so apparently, you're willing to claim everything that comes out of Nikki's mouth as YOUR position? [careful, I'm fairly good at Google-fu]

of COURSE not. That would be LUDICROUS!

but you'll demand Trump supporters be held to that standard???

besides, that's clearly a straw man argument. you SHOULD be able to do better than that...



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Re: Lawsuit on behalf of Ashley Babbit family [Re: white marlin] #8043097
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Originally Posted by white marlin
Originally Posted by Blaine County
But, your boy isn't distinguishing between them when he gives speeches calling them all "hostages". He is misleading his flock. Again.


so, let's talk about standards, shall we?

so apparently, you're willing to claim everything that comes out of Nikki's mouth as YOUR position? [careful, I'm fairly good at Google-fu]

of COURSE not. That would be LUDICROUS!

but you'll demand Trump supporters be held to that standard???




Dude. Calm down. It was a criticism of Trump misleading his flock (and it works on many of them).

I am not a disciple of Haley. Of the current slate of candidates, she will do and is the least objectionable. I think they're all pretty weak--including the great misleader, Trump.

But y'all (including you) throw a fit anytime anyone doesn't bend a knee to Lord Trump--like your post. I couldn't care less if you like Haley, hate Haley, cheer for her or cuss her. She is simply the most reasonable candidate in my opinion.

Don't be so sensitive. But do you agree what he is saying is misleading? Do you agree he misleads?

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Re: Lawsuit on behalf of Ashley Babbit family [Re: martentrapper] #8043100
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I'll take that as a mea culpa from you.

you were "caught".

(btw...the old "Dude. Calm Down" schtick is played. find a new, interesting way to deflect from your debating/"logic" errors)

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Re: Lawsuit on behalf of Ashley Babbit family [Re: white marlin] #8043106
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Originally Posted by white marlin
I'll take that as a mea culpa from you.

you were "caught".

(btw...the old "Dude. Calm Down" schtick is played. find a new, interesting way to deflect from your debating/"logic" errors)


What was I caught on? Dude?

I really have no idea what you're talking about but maybe your better at "debating logic."

And, you didn't answer my question. Does your boy Trump mislead?

Re: Lawsuit on behalf of Ashley Babbit family [Re: martentrapper] #8043113
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Caught trying to use an intellectually vacuous (straw man) argument, that you yourself refuse to be held to.

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Re: Lawsuit on behalf of Ashley Babbit family [Re: white marlin] #8043117
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Originally Posted by white marlin
Caught trying to use an intellectually vacuous (straw man) argument, that you yourself refuse to be held to.


I disagree.

Anyway, does Trump mislead or not? Answer it straight up. I know all politicians lie, but I am asking about Trump.

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The Jan. 6ers were made an example of, 2 tiered justice system. 15 to 20 years in jail is nuts, many get half that for murder.

Re: Lawsuit on behalf of Ashley Babbit family [Re: martentrapper] #8043120
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if all politicians lie (and Nikki is a politician); you're willingly supporting a liar.

this is the SAME insult you're hurling at Trump supporters.

Geeze!

(okay. okay...I'll Calm Down, Dude)

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Re: Lawsuit on behalf of Ashley Babbit family [Re: James] #8043125
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Originally Posted by James
Originally Posted by Boco
Im surprized only one got shot.
You would think the law would have opened up on a mob trying to get in and hang Mike Pence.
Like the National Guard did in Ohio.


I agree. The cops should have shot a few more of them.

Jim

That's what you two have in common.You both believe in more government control.Your both sheep.


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Re: Lawsuit on behalf of Ashley Babbit family [Re: martentrapper] #8043130
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Most of you don't seem to have read what I posted. Byrd was there only as "incident commander". He had been stripped of his police powers. He had failed prior shooting tests. He shouldn't have even been armed.
She wasn't armed. He or his men could have pushed her back as she came through the window. There’s just no way, BC that a reasonable person could see that shooting as justified.
It is not us Trump supporters who are blind or messed up. It's you, blinded by your extreme dislike of Trump.
In my eyes, what happened on Jan. 6 was a traditional act by citizens of a country that was started and founded by exactly what happened on Jan. 6.

Re: Lawsuit on behalf of Ashley Babbit family [Re: white marlin] #8043141
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Originally Posted by white marlin
if all politicians lie (and Nikki is a politician); you're willingly supporting a liar.

this is the SAME insult you're hurling at Trump supporters.

Geeze!

(okay. okay...I'll Calm Down, Dude)


You can't admit that Trump misleads his flock. Telling. And sad.

Back to work. Y'all have a nice evening.

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pot: "Kettle, you're BLACK!"

Game. Set. Match!

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