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Old guns #8011661
12/04/23 07:34 PM
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Does any of you notice how the old guns from 50-100 years ago seem to be out of style?

Today if its not a 6mm, 6.5 or a 350 legend etc. its not any good.

I have a Winchester model 94 in .32 Win.spl. that my son thinks is too old. Its killed more deer than his rifles.

Also if your not a stick and string guy, your not cool. Or a compound bow. Let alone a crossbow (gun bow), your not with it.

Why don't we just setup land mines for our game? How about a claymore to take any and all down? Crazy, yes?

I'm done.


Vietnam--1967 46th. Const./Combat Engineers

"Chaotic action is preferable to orderly inaction."
"After the first shot, all plans go out the window!"
Re: Old guns [Re: seniortrap] #8011671
12/04/23 07:48 PM
12/04/23 07:48 PM
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I don’t worry what others are doing I just don’t have the desire to do that. The I don’t do that so it’s not ok for you to do it has plagued our outdoor activities forever we are our own enemies at times.


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Re: Old guns [Re: seniortrap] #8011679
12/04/23 07:55 PM
12/04/23 07:55 PM
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Georgia
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Outside of materials and methods for firearm construction the basic brass, powder, bullet combo is pretty much the same today as it was a century ago. The advances since then are nothing more than tweaks of shape and size of the case or projectile construction.

But the hardest thing is getting folks to learn and understand foundational concepts.


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Re: Old guns [Re: seniortrap] #8011685
12/04/23 07:58 PM
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What kills me is the folks touting pipsqueak rounds like 300blk for deer but disdain old classics like 30/30 or 25/35 as not enough gun.


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Re: Old guns [Re: seniortrap] #8011686
12/04/23 07:58 PM
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I am not seeing old guns selling cheap, that would be a sign they are going out of style or demand.

Re: Old guns [Re: seniortrap] #8011694
12/04/23 08:03 PM
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Have a pipsqueak 30-30, killed a very large pile of deer with it, only one I have, only one I need....never took to bow hunting, so I guess I'm not with it...

Re: Old guns [Re: seniortrap] #8011718
12/04/23 08:20 PM
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I don't understand the fascination with long-range shooting. The vast majority of hunters are not able to shoot at 500+ yards, and many cannot connect at half that range. Everybody wants a fast twist barrel to shoot long and heavy rounds, that will probably not expand reliably at close typical hunting distances. I am not a fan of heavy for caliber bullets. Have about a dozen deer rifles but none newer than 20+ years. Mostly Mod 70s and Mod 700s. Not interested in the latest fads.

I have made three 500+ yard shots on NC whitetails. I never knew that I hit or killed any of the deer after the shot. That is not fun to me. Unethical. Would be very easy to assume a miss. Once I thought I took two shots at the same deer. Was actually two deer. Killed them both. I found one and my dog found the other. Miracle shots, kills, and retrieval. Shots were from a wobbly tripod stand. would never take those shots now, thirty years later.

Re: Old guns [Re: seniortrap] #8011719
12/04/23 08:23 PM
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Ames, IA
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My Dad has a .32 rifle he is very fond of LOL

I have a .350 Legend and a old .35 Remington myself


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Re: Old guns [Re: seniortrap] #8011729
12/04/23 08:39 PM
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I have a friend with no heirs. He told me I am in his will to get his Marlin 336 in 35 Rem. We are the same age. Maybe my son will get it. I'd gladly buy it from him now, so his lady friend will not give it to her sons.

Re: Old guns [Re: MikeTraps2] #8011731
12/04/23 08:41 PM
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Webster County W.V
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I have several to choose from and hunt a lot with the new and the old. Always make at least one day to hunt with an oldie.
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Re: Old guns [Re: seniortrap] #8011736
12/04/23 08:48 PM
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I will say more new guns bought today will be used more for range shooting than hunting but I think this long range hunting thing is a bad thing for hunting as a whole. I like playing at longer range at the range but do the large majority of my hunting with a bow. The good old faithful cartridges you can find anywhere like the 243, 270, 7 rem mag and 300 win mag are my flavor. They are more than adequate for any hunting shot I'm capable of. I like learning about ballistics and most of the fast twist heavy for cartridge new rounds don't really show any advantage until at least 500+ yards.

Re: Old guns [Re: seniortrap] #8011773
12/04/23 09:07 PM
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I'm 29 so technically of the new school but I've always been a lever gun guy. Being from the North East tracking and still hunting whitetails in the mountains rather than sitting in a observation stand over looking a food plot is more my game. I love those trusty old rifles. I've killed quite a few deer with model 94 winchesters, pump shotguns, and I carried an Enfeild 303 British for a while. I love the nostalgic feeling of hunting deep woods with the same kind of rifles my grandfather's carried. I updated my hunting rifle a few years to a Henry longranger in 308. It still has that nostalgic feel with a little more range than my 30-30. How ever I did jump on the Ar15 bandwagon this year and built one in 300 blk. On a tripod I think it will be a good low recoil rifle to start my 8 year old deer hunting.

Re: Old guns [Re: seniortrap] #8011803
12/04/23 09:25 PM
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I don't take someone seriously when they deer hunt with a black rifle. Go ahead, spew the hate.

Re: Old guns [Re: Posco] #8011813
12/04/23 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Posco
I don't take someone seriously when they deer hunt with a black rifle. Go ahead, spew the hate.


I'm as much a lover blued steel and oiled walnut as anyone and my deer getter of choice is an 1895 winchester in 30/06. But when it comes to putting meat or fur on the ground dead is dead and don't care if you dress up in a loincloth with a sharp stick or call in a fire mission to get it done, dead is dead.


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Re: Old guns [Re: Mainelogger] #8011818
12/04/23 09:32 PM
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I’m in the same boat as mainelogger, except instead of the AR route I went with the Ruger ranch in 300blk. My oldest is 7 and will be using it next year when he turns 8, virtually no kick and quiet with suppressed with 220gr subs.

Re: Old guns [Re: seniortrap] #8011828
12/04/23 09:37 PM
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I like old guns


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Re: Old guns [Re: seniortrap] #8011831
12/04/23 09:39 PM
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I LOVE old school guns! My main shooters for hunting medium to large game are: Pre 64 Winchester in 6mm Rem and a hand made .560 flintlock smoothbore made by Ken Netting. I would love to go out and give my old 1950s Winchester 32 spl alot of shooting time as well, but unfortunately, you can buy 50 BMG rounds for cheaper these days!



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Re: Old guns [Re: seniortrap] #8011835
12/04/23 09:42 PM
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BUT, I do give bonus and style points to how you make it dead. LOL


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Re: Old guns [Re: seniortrap] #8011847
12/04/23 09:51 PM
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Amen to Charles, Miketraps2, and Maine Logger. I've killed dear with a lot of different tools but a little JM Marlin in 35 Rem is my all time favorite. It doesn't knock em flat like the .270s and my per .257s but they always run out of fluid with in hearing distance and if not the LOL trail is thick enough for a 3 yr old to track. My ex father in law and I made my boy do it twice in a day and he had turned 3 only one month before.

They will never make another gun that swings like a shot gun on pheasant like that little .35R does.


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Re: Old guns [Re: seniortrap] #8011850
12/04/23 09:53 PM
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I’m 55 and we had every day calibers. 30/06, 30/30, .308, .44mag. Don’t think any of them are old school. I do have a thing for calibers that can use any bullets should crap hit the fan. .308/7.62 .45 .9mm 5.56. I do own a couple .243 and an inoperable 7mm/08. I want calibers I can find bullets for off dead bodies if needed. Not trying to sound morbid, but better safe than sorry.

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