Re: Wolverine Sets
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07/15/23 12:20 PM
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You don't have t hide them as well, as you would for canines. I use a cover over the pan to keep snow from getting under the pan. So just enough snow to hold cover in place.
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Re: Wolverine Sets
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07/15/23 04:27 PM
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Ryan McLeod
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I cover all my trap with a single ply of paper towel and then minimum amount of snow to make it look seamless. If you have a trap smart wolverine around leave one trap exposed and he’ll get caught in the other trap that’s covered.
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Re: Wolverine Sets
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07/15/23 10:53 PM
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Here iin southeast, I first bed the trap as solid as possible. I use no pan cover at all, but do use moss or hemlock tips to blend the trap. I have had poor luck with any conibear sets, (exactly one gulo), though I make those sets every year. I have few refusals with footholds in hemlock cubbies, though.
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Re: Wolverine Sets
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07/16/23 08:45 PM
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mad_mike
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Great info.
Can you describe how to target the back foot?
I had the exact scenario that you described in your last paragraph happen last year. Had a set that caught 3 marten. First marten was 1/2 ate and beaver bait gone by gulo. 2nd marten was ate and beaver bait gone by gulo. 3rd marten I pulled the next day out of the trap. The following day a female wolverine stuck her head in there.
I thought I might have gotten the weary one but still had refusals, so they’re still out there. Sounds to me that you have one of those magical locations. Location is more than half the battle with wolverine. For what it’s worth I like to set for wolverine with footholds. I’ve gotten a few in 330’s but the go to foothold trap is so effective and has no avoidance. The big bonus over the last three seasons is that the wolves have been getting hung up in the sets. No ideas as to why, but killing is killing.
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Re: Wolverine Sets
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07/17/23 02:22 PM
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Great info.
Can you describe how to target the back foot?
I had the exact scenario that you described in your last paragraph happen last year. Had a set that caught 3 marten. First marten was 1/2 ate and beaver bait gone by gulo. 2nd marten was ate and beaver bait gone by gulo. 3rd marten I pulled the next day out of the trap. The following day a female wolverine stuck her head in there.
I thought I might have gotten the weary one but still had refusals, so they’re still out there. What I concentrate on is getting them to stand up to reach the bait. I want them to stand but not climb. So get that bait just high enough that they can get their mouth on it and pull while standing. Set your traps so they will step in one or both while "pole dancing". Be sure the bait has some bone in it so that it will force them to work to pull it down. I usually hang mine from an old snare. I think it is more productive to get their vision directed upwards at a hanging bait rather than at ground level in a cubby. I believe they are less likely to notice a trap if they are looking up.
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Re: Wolverine Sets
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07/17/23 07:45 PM
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We have major bird issues here, if they can see bait. In fact, it is common for them to follow me through the woods. I try to have bait piles above the tide line, partly to keep the birds busy. Of course it attracts other animals as well. I keep traps well away from the piles, though.
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Re: Wolverine Sets
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07/18/23 03:43 PM
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This past season was my first year specifically targeting wolverine. I was running a combination of foot holds and 330's. Used moose, caribou, beaver, elk, deer and fish scraps for bait. They did not touch the fish and had little interest in beaver. Moose seemed to be their favorite though. Caught 3 wolverine in footholds and one in a 330. I was using #3 coil springs that had been 4 coiled and using 2-3 swivels on each trap. A mix of old Victor square jaws and Bridgers some with offset jaws and some with regular jaws. I did not have any issues holding wolverine in the footholds, but I did have issues catching them in them. They spent a lot of time educating me... They were good at tripping traps regardless of how well I thought I disguised them. I used wax paper and snow to blend my traps. I started adding traps to sets them tripped or circumvented and they would find another way past the traps or just trip more traps. They had no interest in my cubby's with 330's. Every wolverine I caught was missing a toe or toes on various feet and one female was missing all her toes on one front foot. I had nobody trapping within 30-50 miles of me so these suckers cover some ground. I had most of my success and failure at snow hole sets. My last wolverine was caught in an unusual set so I included a pic of that. This set was made at the end of my line, its a 5 mile section they just laughed at my sets all season. Well till the last check that is. This set had three #3's spaced evenly around the tree, slight overkill but it worked.
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Re: Wolverine Sets
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07/19/23 10:56 AM
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Me and my grandpa and one of my friends were out camping. We had one lone caribou walk all along the ridge towards us while we cooked and ate breakfast at first daylight. I went down and shot it then hauled it back to the cabin. We opened some canned mandarine oranges for dessert and as we were eating those my Grandpa spotted something coming from the opposite direction. Turned out to be a wolverine that i then shot with my old 243 blr once it came close enough. I gave it to my Grandma. She had it tanned and she still has it amongst her treasures. First one that i didnt shoot was a long haired female caught in a snare. I love setting for and catching wolverine. Each one is awesome and Ill never get tired of seeing them in my traps and snares. I dont mind working with the fur too except for the big old males full of scar tissue. Seen a few over the years with nasty injuries but they still had plenty of fat on them. Tough as nails those wolverine. Hard to beat the 330/220 but i have a soft spot for snaring them. Caught a whole bunch in 2 coiled #3 soft catch traps set for lynx and ive only seen 3 get out in 30+ years. probably didnt catch much of the foot with those ones. A well built #3 with 4 coils is a good wolverine trap in my opinion and I have no worries setting my 2 coiled as well. A good catch above the foot pads and a little cold weather and theyre not going anywhere.
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Re: Wolverine Sets
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07/19/23 11:24 AM
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Mb750 pull out. This old boy was scratching on my door while I was sleeping the night before. Caught him in a duke 330 in the woodpile I was just getting over the cold when I picked this one up. I was restless after spending a few days inside so I took off to a short line around midnight. Came around the corner and the river was covered with big wolverine tracks and I had a trap set just a little further. Sure enough he followed my trail and ended up getting a toe in there. My headlight was dying and very dim so that was fun. Last one for now. I just got out of the hospital and rushed home to skin this one here. I went out after a good snowfall and hit the wolverine country looking for fresh tracks. Late in the day I crossed big tracks and started following. About an hour later I spotted him running through deep snow amongst scattered little trees. Once I got close I loaded up and pulled the trigger and nothing. Tried again and nothing. I splashed my 223 with gas line anti freeze and put it on my back. Keeping the wolverine in a fairly open spot I kept loading and pulling the trigger until my gun finally fired. I was pouring sweat and my head started throbbing. I was a little over 40km from town with no way to communicate. What followed was the worst ride of my life. I ran into two wolves on the way to town and the grey was easy so I got him and threw it over my lap. The black was just right there and I had lots of space but I was feeling like I was going to pass out so I kept going. I walked into my grandparents house and dropped to the floor. Extreme dehydration. When I stopped sweating and started to burn up was really scary but I could see town lights so I kept going. I was scared to go hunting for a while after that. My little nephew Rylan helped me work on both furs after getting an IV at the hospital. We skinned the wolverine then the wolf and I kept thinking how easily I could’ve got the black wolf.
If you take care of the land the land will take care of you
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Re: Wolverine Sets
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07/19/23 08:57 PM
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I like a piece of wax paper i buy the stuff they sell for deli sandwiches no cutting measuring anything like that rip it for the dog lay it on and a very light covering of snow occasionally I forget it at home and when that happens I am not at all worried about leaving my trap fully exposed
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Re: Wolverine Sets
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07/20/23 10:22 AM
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Use the icon that has the blue arrow, above the area where you type a post. Top row of icons, second from the end. I have a hard time doing several on one post, and you may need to re-size.
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Re: Wolverine Sets
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07/21/23 02:19 AM
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Here’s an example of a set that was refused multiple times Well, you had one stomping around there, and you are are a trapper. Figure out how to catch the SOB. That’s all I can do when I deal with a near miss. Nobody gives me a hug and suggestion. You have been steered towards solutions, archived threads as well as personal knowledge.
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Re: Wolverine Sets
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07/21/23 02:26 AM
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Hahaha. Not looking for hugs, maybe suggestions. I have some ideas though thanks to what you’ve all shared. Maybe I’ll get plum lucky this year. Always look forward to my Minnesota Trap Prod orders in the mail.
Mike, you don’t always have to be so mad. Edit: I know I’m new - only making a joke about your user name. The thing I’ve appreciated the most about wolverine trapping IS the lack of resources online and how few people do it. I have no problem earning it the hard way.
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Re: Wolverine Sets
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07/21/23 04:20 PM
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If they are refusing buckets, I would do something else. I tried buckets and milk crates, but 12 years of putting one near a cubbie, I never got one with plastic. Had one 330 Belidle pulled out of a milk crate, (the only time a wolverine made contact with a crate set), and ate the 1/2 beaver wired to the crate. It then went to the spruce cubbie, 30 yards away, and found the NO BS. I sometimes set 2 traps, one inside the entrance, and one around one side or the other. One time, that resulted in a very angry gulo that had one trap on a front foot, and one trap firmly attached to the tail!
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Re: Wolverine Sets
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07/21/23 06:29 PM
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Every one is a little different. Some dive right into the box on the first time checking it out. Others get smart but just pay attention to what they do and try a set. Might not seem logical but if it works it works. I was getting a lot of them going into cubbies by the back so I set a few cubbies with no trap in front and sure enough Id get them behind the cubby. Another one that made me lose sleep was in the habit of eating my snared animals one year. I tried everything to catch him. Then for about 3 trips in a row I’d find my #3 upside down but still set. One of my uncles told me the next time you see that, set the trap upside down with the pan facing down and enough space underneath for it to fire. It worked. He was so used to getting a paw underneath and flipping it over that it actually worked. Never seen one do that before or since but I’ll Know what to do if it ever happens again. Other wolverine over the years just had their way with my trapline and I never did get some of those smart old ones. I Love trapping wolverine and I Can’t wait for November already.
If you take care of the land the land will take care of you
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Re: Wolverine Sets
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07/21/23 09:10 PM
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Yup. The uncle that describes that set to me had seen it before too so I guess a few wolverine know how it’s done. Probably had a bad experience with a trap. Some old timers taught me a sure fire way to get them hard to catch ones. I won’t describe it here but it involves J hooks. I’ve never tried it and don’t plan to.
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Re: Wolverine Sets
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07/24/23 02:10 AM
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J-hooks, huh? Always thought that was an old wives tail back home.
What an awful way to go.
Anyways- do you guys prep your traps any fancy way for wolverine? Gas (de-grease), hang & rust, then wax? Or just put them in the ground as is?
I’m working on getting all their pan tensions the same. I’m thinking roughly 6lbs?
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Re: Wolverine Sets
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07/24/23 09:47 AM
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The no-bs traps I have come with some coating that is very hard. Almost wolverine-proof for a few catches. Other than that, I do wax most footholds.
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Re: Wolverine Sets
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07/25/23 03:52 PM
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I have 3 no bs traps in the mail. Once they arrive I’ll see if they’re what I want to be using and grab another 48 if so
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Re: Wolverine Sets
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07/26/23 06:42 PM
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My 3 k9 extremes are here. Going to open the parcel and check them out after supper
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Re: Wolverine Sets
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07/27/23 01:56 PM
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Which BS model are you all using? The wolf, wolf junior, or coyote? I am using the wolf for wolves and picked up a doz coyote for wolverine/lynx this spring.
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Re: Wolverine Sets
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07/28/23 05:04 PM
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Here’s an example of a set that was refused multiple times Just my opinion here but this is how I view this set. The bucket is a red flag because it is so unnatural in that context. You could have success with just the 330 without the bucket. OR. Put the bucket on the ground and bury it with snow......leaving only the opening visible and oriented to the downwind direction. Remember...it's winter and every critter has a heat/energy budget that he is trying to maximize. I prefer not to make them work hard for something that looks unnatural.
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Re: Wolverine Sets
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08/03/23 02:22 AM
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Bucket set. Works good around beaver houses too. End of season picking up trap one year and the set was snapped and bait robbed by a big male wolverine. Always good to see sign for the following season. I don’t use plastic very much but this set has always worked for me. Usually set it for foxes that were close to camp that I couldn’t spare a plywood box for. Picked up a couple wolverine with this set too. It’s good to wire the bucket and bury it solid so the animals don’t easily figure it out. I usually put a couple thick willows on each side of the bucket and then bury it all with snow. Trap is sitting in a flat piece of driftwood. One stake per spring and lot of brush. Blend it right in. Then look at it like this for a second before you move on to the set.
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Re: Wolverine Sets
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08/03/23 04:28 PM
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Got to make a bunch of these this fall. Wire mesh fence around a couple trees and a 330 hung on a stick wire the bait to to the fence on the back. I think these might work best near a jackpot. But they work good on there own on travel routes.
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Re: Wolverine Sets
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Update: Was able to explore some new country this weekend and finally figured out a way to get to where I want to go. Figuring out which creeks to cross right now is a maze with our crummy conditions. First time using coni brackets and first cubbie set. Game on. Need to go build a bridge and clear trail now that I've found my way in.
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