Re: Finding Employees?
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08/02/22 09:22 PM
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The age old conundrum! Good luck with that. I know some folks near Milaca that might be able to help. where are you?
Every kid needs a Dog and a Curmudgeon.
Remember Bowe Bergdahl, the traitor.
Beware! Jill Pudlewski, Ron Oates and Keven Begesse are liars and thiefs!
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Re: Finding Employees?
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08/03/22 08:17 AM
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The age old conundrum! Good luck with that. I know some folks near Milaca that might be able to help. where are you? I'm In the annandale area.
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Re: Finding Employees?
[Re: 52Carl]
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About the only thing anyone in your shoes can do is downsize and raise your prices to stay afloat. There has been a lot of damage done to our society over many decades to lead us to where we are at today. Trump/Noem 2024 orta be a good start to get back on the right track. I'm downsized as far as I can go. I'm offering 20 with no experience, if someone can lean on a rake and untangle a rope they can make 20 a hour and it goes up considerably from there.
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Re: Finding Employees?
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Sent this thread to my buddy, we'll see what happens.
Every kid needs a Dog and a Curmudgeon.
Remember Bowe Bergdahl, the traitor.
Beware! Jill Pudlewski, Ron Oates and Keven Begesse are liars and thiefs!
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Re: Finding Employees?
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08/04/22 06:48 PM
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It's not only you, Most are in the same boat. I see McDonald's is paying 18.00 hr. Guess they figure why break your a$$ in the heat when you can stand with air conditioning & calling NEXT. We were in Maine, dunking donuts was offering 20.00 hr. Also,I don't know if it's just here, I see a lot of clients are still working from home since covid.
John's Nuisance Wildlife Control If you like what you do for a living, It's better than a vacation. Most days.
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Re: Finding Employees?
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Why work your butt off in the hot/cold when you can flip burgers for $20+/hr? It's insane, "LETS GO BRANDON!!!!!"
Every kid needs a Dog and a Curmudgeon.
Remember Bowe Bergdahl, the traitor.
Beware! Jill Pudlewski, Ron Oates and Keven Begesse are liars and thiefs!
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Re: Finding Employees?
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Why work your butt off in the hot/cold when you can flip burgers for $20+/hr? It's insane, "LETS GO BRANDON!!!!!" 5 years of flipping burgers and you'll still be flipping burgers. 5 years working for me and an 18 yo went from couldn't drive a pickup to a class A commercial liscense, equipment operating skills and 28.75 per hour all on the books with addional $1,000 Christmas bonus. Company supplied cell phone and random cash bonuses.
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Re: Finding Employees?
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08/10/22 04:08 PM
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They don't know that, or likely care. Whatever is the easiest!
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Every kid needs a Dog and a Curmudgeon.
Remember Bowe Bergdahl, the traitor.
Beware! Jill Pudlewski, Ron Oates and Keven Begesse are liars and thiefs!
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Re: Finding Employees?
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08/27/22 06:45 AM
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Donner survivor, I just want to wish you good luck finding quality employees. What brand of chainsaws do you run?
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wanna be goat farmer.
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Re: Finding Employees?
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For that one hour of work that you are offering $20, how much do you make on that hour? Why should somebody come work for you? Can they make an honest mistake and not get fired? Try offering paid meals in with that $20 and I bet you get good candidates coming out the woodwork, because it's a different benefit. All you gotta do is go by the MN per diem rate of $42 per day, it equals out to $5.25 added per hour for an 8 hour shift, and $50 per day in high localities or $6.25 added per hour. Good luck! I almost always buy or provide lunch, clock starts when we leave the house and ends when we get home. I've had guys run over chainsaws, smash up and roll over equipment, I've never yelled or degraded someone for it though they are talked to respectfully and asked to be more careful. I've had some luck finding guys lately, currently have two who are being trained and one seems like a possible good long term candidate. I just talked about a career path with him, told him he would go to 25 an hour when he could run saws and equipment comfortably which should be a couple months, 30 if he studies and obtains a CDL this winter which I'll pay for. Hoping giving him something to shoot for will keep it interesting and him motivated. We run a variety of saws, stihl 201 261 and 500i are the main ones, also have husky electric climbing saws as well as huskies 2nd biggest saw which I'm spacing out the number. Stihl 500i is my favorite
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Re: Finding Employees?
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You are doing everything possible to attract and keep good employees. Lunch is generous. Babying them about damaging equipment can cause the to not care because no consequences. Pay is generous. Shop to shop is generous. Paying for the CDL is generous.
You must have a good customer base to pay these guys. Your overhead for trucks, equipment, insurance, worker’s comp, fuel, etc. must be huge. You run a good ship!
Please be safe, an owner of a business like yours had a bad accident a couple years ago while climbing on a job.. He barely lived.
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Re: Finding Employees?
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09/08/22 02:19 PM
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For that one hour of work that you are offering $20, how much do you make on that hour? Why should somebody come work for you? Can they make an honest mistake and not get fired? Try offering paid meals in with that $20 and I bet you get good candidates coming out the woodwork, because it's a different benefit. All you gotta do is go by the MN per diem rate of $42 per day, it equals out to $5.25 added per hour for an 8 hour shift, and $50 per day in high localities or $6.25 added per hour. Good luck! I almost always buy or provide lunch, clock starts when we leave the house and ends when we get home. I've had guys run over chainsaws, smash up and roll over equipment, I've never yelled or degraded someone for it though they are talked to respectfully and asked to be more careful. I've had some luck finding guys lately, currently have two who are being trained and one seems like a possible good long term candidate. I just talked about a career path with him, told him he would go to 25 an hour when he could run saws and equipment comfortably which should be a couple months, 30 if he studies and obtains a CDL this winter which I'll pay for. Hoping giving him something to shoot for will keep it interesting and him motivated. We run a variety of saws, stihl 201 261 and 500i are the main ones, also have husky electric climbing saws as well as huskies 2nd biggest saw which I'm spacing out the number. Stihl 500i is my favorite Thank you for the reply, dinner survivor.
wanna be goat farmer.
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