I have a h and r in 22 hornet. Thing is a tack driver. Keep playing around with it.

Wolfie, be run too see when you finally step up to a REAL gun.

We talking .30cals or what lol ? My mosin and my .30-06 are just gonna have to wait till I can get some Varget and more late rifle primers lol.
That being said it is on the list to get a nice .260 rem but from what I've been told about them it'll end up like my .243. on the wall with a box of shells loaded for it because it's just plain works lol

When I saw those bullet tips I went and put a Lead seating die in the box with the other one for ya lol

Thanks for letting us follow along!

Ok so learned something interesting! Was over on greybeard talk to them h&r nuts and umm apparently it's not uncommon for these things to throw shots

Like I'm not sure what to think about it but was told to try two shot groups. A guy said his would shoot two close together and throw the third... Something about the barrel heating up honestly I find this weird beyond belief but idk

Any way another thing I mentioned was this thing is fireforming very strangely. Some are longer then 1.450" ( my base line and some are out to 1.454". No real ryme or reason. Thinking mabye this powered is bad because umm be honest I've left some of it in the auto charge for a day or two and poured it back in never though how the humidity would affect it so that may be it. Got date for win 748 and Ramshot tac so guess I'll try that next
Another question : do any of these primer look cratered ? Some dint just look right but never really got the hang of being able to tell what's cratered

But yeah decapped , wet tumbled with hot water Dawn and a Lil lemme shine in my Lil harbor freight tumbler. And just a tip save your money one of them fancy brass dehydrators bought this one from Walmart for $30 and dries em out bone dry in a Lil over two hours

Those primers are not cratered they don’t even look Max out shoulders are still round. As far as throwing the third shot there is a good possibility your barrel was not stress relieved when it was made. Cost money to do that don’t you know. The test for that is to shoot one shot at a time with the barrel completely cool. If it still produces flyers with the third shot fowling is a prime suspect.. If not then freefloating is the corrective measure.Unfortunately free-floating a single shot is not practical due to the way the forend is fasten

Sounds to me like your chamber is jacked up. Sounds like they are made jacked up from the factory. I do know that a jacked up chamber will exhibit cold bore/hot bore variance.
I had a Remington 700 in 243 that shot sub 1/2 minute all day long, then one day it decided to throw the first shot (cold bore) 1.5" left. The following shots would hit where they were supposed to. I sent it to the gunsmith and he found that there was a considerable amount of corrosion in the chamber. (This gun was used in an environment rich with salt spray, and I was not diligent in properly swabbing the chamber after each use.) They rechambered it to clean it up. It was not an inexpensive job. They have to remove the barrel from the receiver, cut a bit off of the breach end of the barrel, cut the new chamber, then reinstall the barrel at the correct depth in the receiver.
I don't know what is entailed in rechambering a break action gun, but it doesn't seem like it would be easy to do, if possible at all.
In your case, with your gun, just make sure the first shot counts, and request that the nearby animals hold still until your barrel cools off.

Is it locking up tight? no movement when closed.

Two suggestions, the first if you haven't already done it is get an O-ring of the proper size and put between the forearm hanger and the forearm and only tighten the forearm retaining screw until it is snug this often helps with grouping on the Handi-rifles. The next suggestion is to get you some shooting bags and place them under the action of the gun as opposed to on the forearm as they are traditionally used this reduces uneven pressure on the forearm/barrel which causes torquing. The Handi-rifles as a rule don't like bipods. Keep up posting your progress!

So side note: I just realized a complete idiot tell me why I started my loads at 19.5 and instead of going to 20gr + I backed up and went to 18gr boy imma blow my face off one day I swear

You know your about the third person to tell me that so I reckon I'll give it a try ! And I got say I hate not being able to use my bipod effectively because that the main way I shoot when I actually hunting and the like no next test it's gonna be two shots then five minutes of cooling then 2 more shots I guess and see what happens . And I'll b sure to break out my bags this time

Your starting load for a 55 grain jacketed bullet is somewhere between 22 and 23 grains of TAC depending on the bullet style .... don't go lower than that or it can get risky

Was using h322 but your right. I need to stop loading till 2in the morning lol

So was given some reading from one of the guys over at greybeard and if my gun is anything like this guy's, looks like I'm doing pretty dang good lol

Wolf, I quickly read the whole post. I shoot 3 handi rifles, load 2 of them. You do of course realize that every time you shoot a round the next lock-up is different don't you? Forgot those that decrie your rifle my 223 and 243 make clover leafs at 200 yards. I load the 223 and 45/70 and they all shoot less than MOA at 100 yards. Look at something other than your loads.
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Just reread saw others may have made similar suggestions.
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Yep I gotta few things planned . One is gonna be bedding my forgrip to the barrel. Remembered I my Patriot wouldn't shoot well at all due to it's flimsy plastic stock. Filled the forend with jbweld and do a bedding job around the action and it's probably my most accurate gun. So much so I put four rounds in one hole @100 with two different loads , load up a box of shells and it's been handing on the wall ever since, no need to really mess with it.
Which what everyone is saying I'm thinking it's gonna be a similar deal.
Then I'm gonna just do three shot groups and let the barrel cool of for probably ten min before I shoot any more since apparently these things go nuts when it come to barrel heat.
And as much as it kinda messes with things I've been taught imma put the bipod in the shelf for a bit and go to straight front and rear bags.
Bags and three round grouping will probably be first.
That being said on the reloading front , looking back at all my targets this thing is liking them fast best group was being from the fastest which if I believe my chrony was around 2450fps. Which I'm still finding hard to believe really thinking my chrono is bugging out because the same load in the book is supposed to be around 2800fps but their test rifle was a 26" barrel mines a 24". That paired with some reading I've been doing, over on accurate and greybeard I could be loosing up to 80fps per inch I'm missing long with Handi's that are over bored ( like I'm thinking mine is ) are a wrong velocities less then 100fps then other rifles

Well their new brass prepped primed and ready trying to see if I'm gonna go up with H322 or switch over to TAC .....think imma sleep on it and see in the morning

I might have to try that before I do this

I gotta say though the more I read about this things the more they remind me of spring piston air rifles.like yeah they WIIL SHOOT ! but you gotta hole em juuuust right. Actually make me curious how much of a harmonic nightmare these are compered to springers boy lemme stop before I forget to sleep again and and reloading buddy has to spend the rest of the night on my shooing mat

The more I talk to guys who like these guns the more I feel like imma Choke my self for buying one 🤣 apparently over bored Chambers shallow lands and some other things arnt uncommon at all

If all else fails, re barrel the thing. Rifles don't have to make sense. I have it in my head to build a 6.5 Gibbs whenever I can find a long action to build it on. Not that I need something like that around here as I can put meat on the table with the old 30-30 or even my 10mm pistol if I was so inclined. I just want to build one because.................
You want a good shooting handy rifle. That in itself is reason enough to spend the time and effort to just do what it takes to get there. If nothing else, we will end up learning something from it ...... spending time and money to learn something is never wasted.