And so it begins for the new gun SUCCESS!!!!
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Yeeeep time to start messing with some reloads for this ultra varmit. Slapped on a Nikon to get rid of that crappy barska they had on it. I mean crap that thing was bad, want bad at 50yd but when I was trying to shoot it at 100yd and was seeing two crosshairs blurring in and out and bout got a head ache. But yeah that gutted the reciver,n' put in a gold rebounding hammer. I have to half -it now but lets me go from the 6lbs trigger it had down to 2.5 pretty easy. Still need to give it a good barrel scrubbing but other then that shouldn't be able to blame the gun Actually bought some center fire brass cases ammo for the first time in about 3 years which felt weird Shot 15 if em for brass lost one so measured and averaged out the shoulders on those 14 Think my average was like 1.450" . Guess two though of bump will be good enough. Dug though my range pickings gotta 20 or so extra Wolf .223 cases imma use too. Anneled everything. Just used a drill and a Lil holder I made out of a 3/8ths deep well socket. I'm too poor to have one of them fancy anneling machines but my socket is a Craftsman so I got a little class But yeah used some 700 degree tempaliq on some test cases counted one.two.three.four.five.six. seevvven dump was about the rythem seems to wok good. Now tonight come the fun part of full length sizing all these and trying to get consistent bumps with my die which I learned is working weird probably because of a machining Burr left in the die Guess it's partly my fault though I mean I've had this set for close to five years now and the other day what the first time I actually decided to take it apart and clean it soo yeah . O and side I mention also gotta trime chamfer and deburrs fun fun fun
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I need to look on gun broker. A project gun would sure help with all this time spent waiting to heal up. I have watched Hulu Netflix and youtube so much my brain feels like gob of dried up rubber cement.
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Re: And so it begins for the new gun
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what the purpose of the torch.. That is used to anneal the neck/shoulder area of the brass.
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Thanks. Is this used for superior accuracy?? Never saw it done for regular handholds.. what the purpose of the torch.. That is used to anneal the neck/shoulder area of the brass.
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Re: And so it begins for the new gun
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it makes the brass last longer. you can load it a few more times.
google, annealing rifle brass
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It also gives you more uniform neck tension.
Time is more precious than gold if you know how to spend it .... but what do I know, I'm just a dumb farmer.~My Dad NRA LIFE MEMBER, Endowment Member
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I need to look on gun broker. A project gun would sure help with all this time spent waiting to heal up. I have watched Hulu Netflix and youtube so much my brain feels like gob of dried up rubber cement. are there any small projects like whittling , carving , maybe knife building or similar you can do. if components were available relaoding
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Re: And so it begins for the new gun
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Tell me about that hammer, please.
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Re: And so it begins for the new gun
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Soooo an interesting thing is happening Was trying to full-length resize and bump shoulders last night and couldn't get them to move what so ever . My brass has been fire forming at an average of 1.450" base to shoulder but no matter what I tried I could not get my side to bump a should past 1.451". well I went and took measurements from the remaining five factory rounds I had and their measuring 1.454" base to shoulder on average! So my brass is friggen shrinking So ,empty and zeroed out New unfired round Fire formed in my rifle The other weird this is this rifle will chamber once fired like it's new and vice versa
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I have a Small base 223 RCBS sizing die if you want it. PM me you postal addy and I'll mail the thing to you
Let's go Brandon
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Re: And so it begins for the new gun
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Aight so this gun is WEIRD. IM THINKING it's because of a sloppy chamber but this thing ,unlik my AR's or bolt guns has a crazy wide tolerance for sized cases. So here's a lil test I did Took four pieces of cleaned range ( R-P .223) brass labeled them 1-4 measured all of em base to shoulder , wrote it down and tried all of them . Nothing would chamber as is in the gun.would let me close the gun about 3/4's of the way and get stuck. Aight bet. So then called them re measured. Then took my Lee full length re sizer and proceed to bump the shoulders in increments or around four thou. Was kind ahap hazard honestly but hay I just need stop be close! Ok so in like my are or my bolt gun I can't really "feel " the chambering resistance in a traditional sense but what I can do is take note of how much for it take for the breech to lock into place. Empty it takes no for what so ever. So what I did was insert each of the sized cases in the breech and used as little force as possible to try and close it and lock the breech. After 1.458" I noticed I had to use just the slightest but of extra force to close my breech so I'm calling 1.458" as my max! Now did I need to do all that, well...no not really BUT ! it was probably gonna drive me nuts other wise down the road . Now the weird thing is this thing is fire forming brass at an average ( as of the first firing) at 1.450" . So basically and mabye I'm wrong but it seems if that case is measuring 1.450-1.458 base to shoulder. It's gonna take it . Which is kinda nuts because with some of my other guns it's no where near that loose but hay quirky little gun lol.
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Re: And so it begins for the new gun
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do you have your seating die on the flat or cone option ? seems all your soft points are flattened , if you use lee dies you can turn the part inside the die around and it grabs on the ogive not the nose
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do you have your seating die on the flat or cone option ? seems all your soft points are flattened , if you use lee dies you can turn the part inside the die around and it grabs on the ogive not the nose You know I actually didn't know that was a thing ! But I checked and it's cone down. These where cheap bullets so that probably has something to do with it
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