In the intrests of clarity,isnt there more than one trapping organization in minnesota that represents trappers there?.One supports Non res trapping and one does not?Which one has the most members?
When the poll was taken did it include results from both organizations members separately or together?

Yes Cory I understand that.

When you said..... "How is the issue dead ? MN Association has approved pursuing NR trapping !"... I took that to mean that the MTA leadership was currently pursuing NR trapping.

I misunderstood you.

The way things are in Minn. the residents will be lucky to be trapping in a few years.

Where did I state that? I stated that as the current law reads it is illegal for a MN resident o guide non residents and subsidize their income during a down market. It is also illegal for people to give any hands on, on the line instruction.

The talk of guiding kind of muddies the waters a bit is what I was asking. Lessons or trapping adventure might not raise any red flags like the term guiding does. The term guide seems premature at this point but I understand the need of more income in rural areas every dollar makes a difference, been there done that.

Yes guides are “required” in some states, reservations and Canada if that was the angle to get NR into the state then that would be another story. Hence the confusion or lack of clarity.

We went through the same BS for years in SD even after NR trapping went through the the big stink was the rules became the problem even though other states had similar restrictions and some have added new rules or went to resident only draws. I don’t pick on MN like I said it’s there state their rules but the low blows just keep coming often from people that have less to offer. Most of the ones that get nasty don’t have a dog in the fight and have no plans to trap where they are complaining about often.

A Doc friend I hunt with went on a remote trapping adventure up in Canada on a registered trapline he enjoyed it very much.

I have been guiding recreational hunters and fishermen for years. Good luck guiding recreational trappers.

I don't believe it's unique to Minnesota, but certainly applies to MInnesota residents here in Wisconsin due to their nonreciprocity with regards to trapping.

https://dnr.wisconsin.gov/GoWild/nonresident.html

Maybe you can join this one?

The primary purpose of the MFZTA shall be to achieve the best possible fur-bearer environment, promote high-quality trapping and to protect our trapping heritage.

To achieve these purposes, the following shall be promoted:

• Present our positions to government officials’ departments and legislators.

• Educate all trappers (young/old) and the general public on the values of the sport of trapping.

• Promote good sportsmanship, good trapping ethics and safe trapping practices.

• Promote and maintain high-quality fur-bearer programs.

• Provide opportunities for trappers to meet, share experiences and develop a fraternal spirit.

• Support enforcement of regulations, which curtail the illegal taking of fur-bearers.

• Support efforts to increase opportunities for furbearers on public and private lands..


• Support wildlife research, provide pertinent information and maintain a working relationship with wildlife officials..

• Establish a realistic and workable position on predator control..

Good questions
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Osky

Hope you guys find a solution but with multiple organizations with different goals it will be a struggle. I was surprised at the trappers and dealers that opposed it here, life long guys that promoted the sport until then. Many have passed now so maybe it’s a old guy thing somewhat?

Plenty of guys who state hop fought against it

I have very little knowledge of the current MNFZA . Certainly not supporters of NR trapping. I have no doubt they are a minority in comparison to the MTA. Like by a really , really, long ways !

I only know the much larger Association MTA , voted to support NR trapping ( excluding tagged species) quite some time ago.

I think having past conversation and context in a thread like this is invaluable, don’t know why some are perturbed by that. And it’s not a dead horse, just a horse locked in a barn. Happy trapping! ScottW

Come to think of it in my area I’ve never heard of or seen a NR trapper but I’m sure that’s not true across the whole state. I’m sure the golden triangle and the Black Hills get some just not here yet.

Non residents can trap In SD but I don't think they can start till Jan. Not sure If's that starting date.

Does WI still have a delay for NR trappers?

Looks like they start Dec 1st

Yes and no. Non-resident trappers have the same start days as resident trappers for all species except raccoon; where non-residents have a 14 day delay. It's an old statute which given the current prices of raccoon doesn't make much sense but isn't going to change.

Start dates vary by location (zones) in the state and by species. Start dates open as early as mid October.

Bobcat by draw only in the whole state? Resident only or can NR draw a tag?

I'm not Against it at all. but others Stance will hurt me anyway

The point I try to make often is every state has its own rules and restrictions be it equipment, late starts, draws that exclude NR or greatly reduce the NR chance of drawing, no harvest of certain species or limited harvest of certain species. People often forget their states restriction but not other states restrictions.

Just saying each state has its own unique rules, advantages and disadvantages find the one that works for you is all you can really do no different then planning any other trip.