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#684791 - 04/17/08 05:21 PM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: highview]
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thanks guys you have a lot of good ideas.

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#684860 - 04/17/08 06:31 PM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: mathews4ever]
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Not a metal worker,but been wondering if hay rake teeth would be a good solution ?
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#684983 - 04/17/08 07:44 PM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: highview]
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I made one of these traps with a longspring at work today. I mounted the trigger beside the spring instead of on the rim and it crosses diagonally across the compressed long spring. It seems to work great and I could not pull my finger out of it! I still need to make some adjustments and maybe I'll post a pic. The longsprig was a piece of cake to attach and set. Think we're on to something.

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#686117 - 04/18/08 06:23 PM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: highview]
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Ack, what did you use to cut the holes for the wire jaw and the dog. I think that I am going to use a dremel tool unless somebody has a better idea.

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#686364 - 04/18/08 09:15 PM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: mathews4ever]
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How about a MB 650 spring. And i thought It would be easier to use square tubing Instead of pipe. It would be a lot eaiser to just drill holes Instead of slots. You could drill a 3/4" hole for the trigger And 3/16ths holes for the paw holding devise.
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#686370 - 04/18/08 09:18 PM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: The Beav]
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The design I am working on right now uses a mb650 spring. as for the square tubing I guess I don't see why it wouldn't work, but you still need slots for complete closure. I would bet without slots you would get a lot of pullouts.

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#686628 - 04/19/08 12:51 AM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: mathews4ever]
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The trap I made is made with pipe and I took a die grinder with a cutoff wheel and cut a slot half way through the pipe. the slot is about 1/4" wide. It was a lot eiseir than milling and it has plenty of clearance for the trap to close all the way. I believe ACK used a mill to cut the notch for his push/pull trigger leaving a small tab in the middle to catch the trigger. I drilled three 1/4" holes in the side of the tube in the shape of a clover and then filed out the small amount of material leaving a sideways heart shaped hole. the piont in the heart is what the trigger catches on. I tied to post a picture of the one I made but I'm a little better (not much)at fab work than I am at figuring out the internet.

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#686655 - 04/19/08 06:22 AM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: WST]
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yep i used a mill. if you don't have one just drill a large hole the lay a nail part way over the hole and tack it in place with a welder. much easier then milling.
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#686671 - 04/19/08 07:06 AM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: ack]
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as for the slots, mark and drill the proper size hole then very slowly twist the pipe allowing the side of the drill to cut the slots. go too fast and your drill will become two! i know there are easier ways to make a trap but i was after a method for anyone with a drill press and a welder to be able to make one. i do like the idea above about using square tubing. might have to try one of those sometime in the future.
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#686771 - 04/19/08 09:13 AM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: ack]
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For those slots on the paw holder couldn't a guy just use some care with a chop saw and burn out a slot on each side?
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#686789 - 04/19/08 09:43 AM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: k9.]
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With the use of the square tubing you could just drill two holes Instead of slots. And the U shaped paw holder could be bent with two 90s so when It was pulled through the holes It would pull up tight to the Inside surface of the tubing.Just like two trap jaws coming togeather.And to keep the paw holder pulling straight you would just cut two segments of smaller tubing that would slip Inside and bracket the paw holder.
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#686790 - 04/19/08 09:44 AM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: k9.]
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Also curious about what you are doing on the back side of the trap. I am assuming there is a tail or other end of the spring that is going into the rear of the trap?
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#686814 - 04/19/08 10:07 AM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: k9.]
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Same as the Grizz you connect the throw arm of the spring to the U shaped paw holder
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#686836 - 04/19/08 10:27 AM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: The Beav]
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What type/gage of wire are some of you using to make the U shaped paw holder?
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#686847 - 04/19/08 10:36 AM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: warden]
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10 or 12 gauge would work. 1/8 inch threaded rod would give you better hold on that coons foot over a smooth wire or rod.
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#686853 - 04/19/08 10:40 AM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: The Beav]
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Thanks Beav.
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#686860 - 04/19/08 10:47 AM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: warden]
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Has anybody tried using a heavier wire or a flat piece for the foot wire. I would think it would work a lot like lamination and cut down on foot damage and make the animal more comfortable. This is more important on the accidental cat catches.

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#686893 - 04/19/08 11:17 AM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: mathews4ever]
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With a coons tapered foot I would think you would get more pull outs with a flat paw holder.
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#686905 - 04/19/08 11:25 AM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: mathews4ever]
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Yes you could use an abrasive saw to "burn" slots for the U shaped paw holder. Thats what I did with the cutoff wheel on my die grinder. Using a thin wheel meant I had to make two cuts and remove the metal inbetween. ack is right, you could easily make elongated holes with a drill bit. I used a 4" 20d nail for the catch band. It has a dia. of 3/16". The body of the trap is made with galvanized 1-5/8" tubing that is commonly used for chain link fenceing. It is farely thin walled and easy to work with but seems plenty strong. I also had a lot of it laying around.

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#686913 - 04/19/08 11:31 AM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: WST]
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did you have any trouble welding the galvanized metal. That stuff usually give off quite a bit of weird fumes.

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