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#686923 - 04/19/08 11:40 AM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: mathews4ever]
k9. Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Brooklyn, Iowa 45 years old st...
Beav can you bend a threaded rod much without breakage?

I am talking about the other end of the spring with my other question Beav. Looks like he is bolting it in possibly in the picture, but the angle is messing me up. That srping has to be solid and welding it is not an option.
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#686944 - 04/19/08 12:04 PM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: k9.]
WST Offline
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Registered: 04/02/08
Loc: Eastern Oregon
I think I got a picture here It's not as pretty as ack's traps. I didn't want to spend too much time on a prototype that might not work. Galv metal is nasty to weld but for the small amount that I welded it's not a problem. Flux cored wire will weld well to galvanized but hold your breath!

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#686957 - 04/19/08 12:12 PM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: WST]
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Gonna take it out and try it?
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#686958 - 04/19/08 12:12 PM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: WST]
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I gotta tell wst, that is not a pretty trap. \:D But if it works is all that matters. how does your trigger work.

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#686991 - 04/19/08 12:45 PM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: mathews4ever]
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Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: se SD
ya DO NOT breath that smoke off gal metal its very toxic
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#687026 - 04/19/08 01:02 PM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: rags57078]
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Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Iowa
Interesting post.
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#687142 - 04/19/08 03:00 PM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: Coydog]
WST Offline
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Registered: 04/02/08
Loc: Eastern Oregon
I will give this one a try. the nail that you see running into the side has a notch in it that the point in the hole hooks on. Push that nail up or down and SNAP! There is definitly something to be said for buying a proven trap like Yancy's or Grizz that you will have confidence in but It would feel great to put up a little fur with my own contraption. Hopefully I dont just give all the local coons a free edjucation!

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#687168 - 04/19/08 03:30 PM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: WST]
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Registered: 03/09/08
Loc: Ohio, Old fart to some.
i made one with #9 wire for the "jaw". it works but seems too bend to easily. one of the others i used a spring pin from a #2 double coil. i had 4 coiled some and had extra pins left over. they are about the same dia. but much stiffer.
the spring on the ones i made are bolted down. a 3/8-16 bolt with a washer will hold the spring.
the arm for the trigger i used two different materials. one was #9 wire and the other was a 20 penny nail. both worked fine.
they are cheap to make, they just take time. like i said before, the springs are all i bought and they only cost a buck 50. i looked at other springs but could not find any localy cheaper then the combine reel springs.
some time in the near future i will make a couple with square tubing and post some how to pics. just not sure when i'll get the time!
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#687508 - 04/19/08 08:45 PM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: ack]
welder Offline
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Registered: 03/11/07
Loc: iowa
wst what size long spring did ya use thanx welder
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#687528 - 04/19/08 08:57 PM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: welder]
DanielE Offline
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Registered: 12/30/06
Loc: Eastern NC
It'd be pretty easy to take the galvanizing off....especially if you do it after cutting to length.

You'll must have a LOT of time on your hands! Great looking work you done there!

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#687536 - 04/19/08 09:02 PM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: welder]
playin4funami Offline
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Registered: 01/25/07
Loc: nebraska
i've been thinking of a design with a small loop of easily replacable cable for the paw holding device,sort of like a small enclosed powered foot snare. maybe a single #3 or #4 coilspring spring for the power,no lock,just two holes close together on one side with a slot cut opposite to hold the loop in place. I would close around the wrist like a cable handcuff inside the pipe. Havn't had time to play in the shop yet,and not sure on spring size,but what do you think?
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#687603 - 04/19/08 09:44 PM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: playin4funami]
freeburgtrapper Offline
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Registered: 12/25/06
Loc: freeburg,illinois
just got done winding 2 dozen springs for my traps. turned some arbors down in the lathe and made my own. they look just like the double torsion springs on the griz. made a fixture to create the loop also. i'm using 1/8 inch music wire and still need to strees releive them in the oven at 450 for 45 minutes when the wife aint lookin.lol i want to make a video on winding springs but havent had time yet.
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#687745 - 04/20/08 12:05 AM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: freeburgtrapper]
mathews4ever Offline
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Registered: 03/29/08
Loc: North Branch , MN...21 years o...
Man I really would like to see that video.

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#687772 - 04/20/08 01:14 AM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: mathews4ever]
WST Offline
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Registered: 04/02/08
Loc: Eastern Oregon
Welder, I used a #1 Victor. I thought about the cable idea also. I think it would work fine.

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#687874 - 04/20/08 08:47 AM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: WST]
The Beav Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Wisconsin
Cable might work but I think the wire loop has been time tested on the grizz and we know that works.
I don't think most of us have the tools to wind springs. But It would be great to know how It's done.
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#688390 - 04/20/08 04:48 PM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: The Beav]
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Registered: 03/11/07
Loc: iowa
i've been think'n of makin mine from square tubing and the spring that you use and i got some of those that are broke but the spring is good yet
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#688396 - 04/20/08 04:54 PM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: welder]
freeburgtrapper Offline
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Registered: 12/25/06
Loc: freeburg,illinois
i added a thread on spring making if anyone reading these ideas are interested. you'll have to look down the list. i dont know haow to put a link.

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#688399 - 04/20/08 04:56 PM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: freeburgtrapper]
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Registered: 03/29/08
Loc: North Branch , MN...21 years o...
You just have to highlight the url, and copy and paste.
Heres the link he was talking about.

http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/688194#Post688194


Edited by mathews4ever (04/20/08 04:57 PM)

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#688763 - 04/20/08 08:09 PM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: mathews4ever]
ack Offline
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Registered: 03/09/08
Loc: Ohio, Old fart to some.
freeburgtrapper- nice job!
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#688838 - 04/20/08 08:50 PM Re: how many make there own dog proof traps? [Re: ack]
Coyote Cuffer Offline
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Registered: 01/10/07
Loc: Lampasas,Texas
Thanks for the video. Where do you get music wire to make springs?

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