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Frank Conibear #6518227
04/14/19 06:15 PM
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good question I cant answer did he produce traps or just make prototypes that he sold to manufacturers read about him but I guess it will be new when I read it again


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Re: Frank Conibear [Re: jeff karsten] #6518236
04/14/19 06:25 PM
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ok I googled it and he contacted Woodstream Corperation to produce traps the Victor/Conibear


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Re: Frank Conibear [Re: jeff karsten] #6518435
04/14/19 09:41 PM
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1958! Invented in 1958 and no one has come up with a better body grip trap. Amazing.

Re: Frank Conibear [Re: jeff karsten] #6518621
04/15/19 07:53 AM
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Re: Frank Conibear [Re: jeff karsten] #6518623
04/15/19 08:09 AM
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Frank got all the credit. The Beav was out there in the shop creating all the prototypes.

Explains why he's so grouchy yet to this day about "change."

Re: Frank Conibear [Re: jeff karsten] #6518629
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Why is the RBG better? I know it is round jaw and all, but better? And its basically the same principle.

Re: Frank Conibear [Re: jeff karsten] #6518631
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Beav tested them for Frank LOL......

Re: Frank Conibear [Re: jeff karsten] #6518642
04/15/19 08:45 AM
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Come to think about it. Anyone recall the Beav promoting conibear traps in any of his posts? It's always all about the big jawed traps. Finally explained.

Re: Frank Conibear [Re: jeff karsten] #6518649
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The original frank conibear design was severely flawed until beav stepped in with his ideas to improve it.....OK, OK, I quit....lord I apologize.

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Re: Frank Conibear [Re: jeff karsten] #6518662
04/15/19 09:13 AM
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takes a good idea to come up with a better idea I think Mr. Conibear would be proud of the improvments (killbars Canadian bend humped jaws) and trappers constant tweaking of triggers to make a successful trap better and that its not called a Beavibear


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Re: Frank Conibear [Re: jeff karsten] #6518687
04/15/19 09:30 AM
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never used any rbg traps but I would think squares would be easier to stabilize and make supports for


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Re: Frank Conibear [Re: run] #6518695
04/15/19 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by run
I don't any of the story behind Coni-bears. But I can see why RBG's work better.


Please explain. Especially with respect to the bottom edge set.

Re: Frank Conibear [Re: jeff karsten] #6518701
04/15/19 09:39 AM
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played with RBG's and didn't care for them.i think they would be a lot more popular if they were any better.

heck,i think Beav had some input into the first deadfalls used. whistle









Re: Frank Conibear [Re: jeff karsten] #6518715
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I don't do bottom edge sets. I was thinking dry - land sets over a ground hog hole. I have never used RBG's.


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Re: Frank Conibear [Re: jeff karsten] #6518743
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As I state over on the 550 thread. I have an old article that Frank Conibear wrote of his beaver trapping in the NWT when he went out on winter/ spring, the mileage they travelled was increadable on foot.( in a Canadian Fur /Fin/ feather magazine) Often wonder what he got paid for the article, he did mention his returns for the seasons travel, but I put the article away and memory well.....don't put it out there if not printed fact.

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Re: Frank Conibear [Re: jeff karsten] #6518764
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The rotating jaw trap that Conibear developed and ATC engineers improved the trigger system for was surely one of the great advancements in trap development and the new traps made pretty good trappers, especially for beaver, out of some folks who previously were not good. However, the concept of rotating jaw traps dates at least back to the Bigelow traps that were produced from 1925 on. Many killer type traps preceded the "Conibears" but they mostly all suffered from the same problem with poor triggering systems.

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Re: Frank Conibear [Re: jeff karsten] #6518803
04/15/19 12:29 PM
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Re: Frank Conibear [Re: jeff karsten] #6518806
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Frank Conibear said some very negative things about foothold traps that should have never been said and they were spread like crazy by animal rights organizations. Too bad he didn't have more discretion in his zeal to promote his body grippers.

Re: Frank Conibear [Re: jeff karsten] #6518827
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I never heard that.I spoke to trappers who knew him,like Ralph Bice,and never heard anyone say that.I don't believe he ever said anything that was not true about footholds,compared to bodygrips.All trappers know that a live animal has more chance to escape a trap than a dead one.
That was probably BS spread by jealousy,or Antis

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Re: Frank Conibear [Re: jeff karsten] #6518873
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I heard there was a reward by some anti group to come out with a killer trap design or something like that?

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