Re: Night latching for coons?
[Re: DanielE]
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03/19/08 12:26 PM
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Old school Huh! well old school has caught me a ton of fur LOl I just don't think all this tinkering gets you any more coon. Square up the end of the dog square up the pan notch file it down to about half of It's original depth. Close up the dog end where It attaches to the post. Bend the trap frame so that when you have a level pan your dog Is fully engaged In the pan notch. Now you have a well tuned trap. Set the trap place it at the set and your good to go It will be the same every time you set and no guess work.
False drop or pan creep. If you look at your trap you will notice that the pan posts are wider then the pan shank. So when you tighten the tension bolt the pan posts close up against then pan shank but If you look close you will see they only tighten up on the top edge of the pan shank. This gives you false pan drop. You need to add a thin washer or two between the pan posts to even up the pressure exerted on the faces of the pan shank. This will give you a smooth and even pan drop when the trap Is sprung.
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Re: Night latching for coons?
[Re: Cletis Richards]
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03/19/08 01:07 PM
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I'm computer chalanged can't do all that neat stuff but maybe ADC can show the relationship of the pan shank to the pan posts as I explained.
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Re: Night latching for coons?
[Re: The Beav]
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03/19/08 01:33 PM
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I'm computer chalanged can't do all that neat stuff but maybe ADC can show the relationship of the pan shank to the pan posts as I explained. The washer (represented in red) is what you mean to remove the wobble side to side of the pan. ------------------------------------------------ The pan creep I was speaking of is the pan sliding front to back of the hole where the bolt attaches. The red circle shows the bolts position when you push the pan up on the dog in the left image, the right shows its position once its been pushed down to the night-latch. No matter how tight the bolt is it will slip this way easy. Unless you drill it out and use an over sized bolt because the hole in the pan is bigger than the holes in the pan posts. Like I said with a short notch you can't push the pan down any to eliminate this movement so its impossible to get consistent pan tension. ~ADC~
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Re: Night latching for coons?
[Re: Cletis Richards]
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03/19/08 02:47 PM
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Dave, I grind the teeth off one side of the file,making it safe and it acts as a guide, it helps keep things square and straight. Like you said a few passes and its a done deal, just keep the file parallel with the top of the pan. Do you mean you are grinding the flat top part?
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Re: Night latching for coons?
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Re: Night latching for coons?
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03/19/08 11:49 PM
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I thought about this post again while putting night-latch's on a bunch of 1.75 Vic.'s. The question was do YOU night latch your coon traps as well as your fox or yote trap's. I don't. Can't really say why I don't but I hardly spend any time at all on coon traps. I think probally I should but I consider myself a canine trapper. I'm always working on yote traps and want them perfect, so why not the coon traps. I intend on targeting coon heavily, early next season then, hit the land after deer season. So maybe I'll start working on the coon traps as I have time. I used to deer hunt so much I wouldn't start trapping till deer season was over anyway. Coon were always a side line, something to set for just as I happened by a likely place, so maybe this year I'll show the coon a bit more respect and properly adjust and tune even a coon trap. Robert
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Re: Night latching for coons?
[Re: buckskinner]
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03/21/08 12:46 PM
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buckskinner,You pretty much nail what I was talking about.I play around with all my Coyote and cat traps but have never really messed with my coon traps.Why, I don't know.
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Re: Night latching for coons?
[Re: tmrschessie]
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03/21/08 05:36 PM
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I belive the use of the pan stop was more to cut down on the amount of space under the jaws to help with the chewing problem, not to give you more even pad catches.
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Re: Night latching for coons?
[Re: Ely]
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03/21/08 05:51 PM
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I got a stupid question then.. Since the Night Latch concept works so well, "Why don't they build the traps with a small dog notch in the first place"?
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