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Canada's on a roll! #6115192
01/06/18 03:37 AM
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Re: Canada's on a roll! [Re: yukon254] #6115238
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All of the "Climate Change" people including many on this site will just ignore the fact that, yet again, one of these hack "scientist" just got caught manipulating data. I've been saying it for years. It's a huge hoax. Just look at the supporters. Gore for one, anything he is in favor of is fundamentally wrong if not illegal. It doesn't matter how many times this is debunked, I've lost count of the mountain of evidence at this point. There is no and has never been any evidence that humans have anything at all to do with any form of climate change. In fact all of the evidence points to a natural variation that has been going on now for about a billion years. It's a huge libtard hoax to redistribute wealth as well as gain control of people and business. More money for government coffers is all that it is for.


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Re: Canada's on a roll! [Re: yukon254] #6115570
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In addition to what Finster said, which I agree with, there is also the problem with the way government funding for research is granted. In the case of climate change, only those seeking to prove it was due to human actions would get funded. In any study the only possible conclusion is the one for which evidence is sought, if there is even the just the slightest thread. That's not science.

Re: Canada's on a roll! [Re: EdP] #6115845
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Originally Posted By: EdP
In addition to what Finster said, which I agree with, there is also the problem with the way government funding for research is granted. In the case of climate change, only those seeking to prove it was due to human actions would get funded. In any study the only possible conclusion is the one for which evidence is sought, if there is even the just the slightest thread. That's not science.
That's correct Ed. In fact, that can be looked up. I've done it before, I'll have to look again.


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Re: Canada's on a roll! [Re: Finster] #6115862
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Originally Posted By: Finster
All of the "Climate Change" people including many on this site will just ignore the fact that, yet again, one of these hack "scientist" just got caught manipulating data. I've been saying it for years. It's a huge hoax. Just look at the supporters. Gore for one, anything he is in favor of is fundamentally wrong if not illegal. It doesn't matter how many times this is debunked, I've lost count of the mountain of evidence at this point. There is no and has never been any evidence that humans have anything at all to do with any form of climate change. In fact all of the evidence points to a natural variation that has been going on now for about a billion years. It's a huge libtard hoax to redistribute wealth as well as gain control of people and business. More money for government coffers is all that it is for.

Well said!!


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Canada's on a roll! [Re: yukon254] #6115944
01/06/18 08:27 PM
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There is however a link between the efficiency of politicians and the weather. They do a lot better work the colder it gets. As the weather gets warmer they make more mistakes. This can be seen in the number of protesters on the streets.
Of course I am going to need a few million $$$$$$ of government funding for the necessary research to back this up with variable numbers.

ATB

Prof. Michael


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Re: Canada's on a roll! [Re: yukon254] #6116014
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I hope trump capitalizes on this hoax killer. He is the only real leader who will run with it. Our “leader” is too busy meeting muslims and breaking ethics laws to open his eyes on this hoax. Go get em Mr. Trump!

Re: Canada's on a roll! [Re: yukon254] #6116040
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The source is a fringe publication, not real science...


Principia Scientific International
Background
Principia Scientific International (PSI) is an organization based in the United Kingdom which promotes fringe views and material to claim that carbon dioxide is not a greenhouse gas. PSI was formed in 2010 around the time they published their first book, titled Slaying the Sky Dragon: Death of the Greenhouse Gas Theory. [1]

PSI claims it provides its members with a “reliable port of call to ascertain the facts behind the news stories to better judge whether information being presented by third parties is accurate information and reflects a balanced view of all facets of the subject.” [2]

The PSI website says the organization is “for everyone who supports the traditions [sic] scientific method against the rise of sinister and secretive government funded 'post normal science'.”

As of 2014, PSI described itself as a “not-for-profit community interest subsidiary of PSI Acumen Ltd. That statement has since been removed. [2]

PSI Acumen was registered with Companies House in the UK in March 2013 (see PDF) as a private company, with an address in Battersea Park Road, London. In July 2013, the business address of PSI Acumen was changed (PDF) to an address in Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, which is the same as the home address of John O'Sullivan, the organization's founder and chief executive officer. PSI Acument LTD was dissolved (PDF) on October 15, 2014. [3], [4], [5]

The two named directors were John O'Sullivan, of the UK, and a Walter James O'Brien, with a US address listed in Fargo, North Dakota. Emails published by climate skeptic blogger Pete Ridley suggest that Walter James O'Brien no longer has any connection to the PSI Acument company. [3], [6]

Principia Scientific reports that one of their “proudest endeavors is the ongoing support given to world-leading independent climatologist, Dr Tim Ball,” who is also a founding member and former chairman of PCI. [7]

Stance on Climate Change
PSI regularly publishes commentary which claims that carbon dioxide is not a greenhouse gas and that it could actually cool the planet. For example, in an article published in November 2013, “PSI Staff” wrote: [8]

Scientists at Principia Scientific International (PSI), who peer-reviewed Nahle's paper, are currently advising colleagues that the most reliable data available now confirms that CO2 is shown to act as a coolant in earth's climate. As such, the notion of a so-called 'greenhouse gas' warming effect may be regarded as refuted, while environmental measures by governments and individuals to reduce “carbon emissions” to combat climate change are, in turn, rendered pointless.

In 2013, PSI also began to promote unfounded claims that wind turbines make people sick and that childhood vaccines were “one of the largest most evil lies in history.” [9]

Funding
PSI is described on its website as being part of PSI Acumen Ltd — a private company registered in the UK with two named directors. No accounts have been filed for the company.

PSI asks for donations on its website and also seeks members. Membership is free, but PSI asks people applying to make a voluntary donation (they suggest about $30). According to their website, [2]

“PSI is not beholden for its funds to any corporation, political party or undisclosed source. PSI functions on the income generated from its members and stakeholders ostensibly via book sales, consultancy fees and unsolicited charitable donations.”


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Re: Canada's on a roll! [Re: lebowski] #6116070
01/06/18 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted By: lebowski
The source is a fringe publication, not real science...


Principia Scientific International
Background
Principia Scientific International (PSI) is an organization based in the United Kingdom which promotes fringe views and material to claim that carbon dioxide is not a greenhouse gas. PSI was formed in 2010 around the time they published their first book, titled Slaying the Sky Dragon: Death of the Greenhouse Gas Theory. [1]

PSI claims it provides its members with a “reliable port of call to ascertain the facts behind the news stories to better judge whether information being presented by third parties is accurate information and reflects a balanced view of all facets of the subject.” [2]

The PSI website says the organization is “for everyone who supports the traditions [sic] scientific method against the rise of sinister and secretive government funded 'post normal science'.”

As of 2014, PSI described itself as a “not-for-profit community interest subsidiary of PSI Acumen Ltd. That statement has since been removed. [2]

PSI Acumen was registered with Companies House in the UK in March 2013 (see PDF) as a private company, with an address in Battersea Park Road, London. In July 2013, the business address of PSI Acumen was changed (PDF) to an address in Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, which is the same as the home address of John O'Sullivan, the organization's founder and chief executive officer. PSI Acument LTD was dissolved (PDF) on October 15, 2014. [3], [4], [5]

The two named directors were John O'Sullivan, of the UK, and a Walter James O'Brien, with a US address listed in Fargo, North Dakota. Emails published by climate skeptic blogger Pete Ridley suggest that Walter James O'Brien no longer has any connection to the PSI Acument company. [3], [6]

Principia Scientific reports that one of their “proudest endeavors is the ongoing support given to world-leading independent climatologist, Dr Tim Ball,” who is also a founding member and former chairman of PCI. [7]

Stance on Climate Change
PSI regularly publishes commentary which claims that carbon dioxide is not a greenhouse gas and that it could actually cool the planet. For example, in an article published in November 2013, “PSI Staff” wrote: [8]

Scientists at Principia Scientific International (PSI), who peer-reviewed Nahle's paper, are currently advising colleagues that the most reliable data available now confirms that CO2 is shown to act as a coolant in earth's climate. As such, the notion of a so-called 'greenhouse gas' warming effect may be regarded as refuted, while environmental measures by governments and individuals to reduce “carbon emissions” to combat climate change are, in turn, rendered pointless.

In 2013, PSI also began to promote unfounded claims that wind turbines make people sick and that childhood vaccines were “one of the largest most evil lies in history.” [9]

Funding
PSI is described on its website as being part of PSI Acumen Ltd — a private company registered in the UK with two named directors. No accounts have been filed for the company.

PSI asks for donations on its website and also seeks members. Membership is free, but PSI asks people applying to make a voluntary donation (they suggest about $30). According to their website, [2]

“PSI is not beholden for its funds to any corporation, political party or undisclosed source. PSI functions on the income generated from its members and stakeholders ostensibly via book sales, consultancy fees and unsolicited charitable donations.”



Well, maybe MIT is wrong?

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/403256/global-warming-bombshell/

Maybe these 7 papers?

http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2012/10/seven-recent-papers-that-disprove-man.html

Perhaps this can shed some light on the 97%?

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/09/03/c...or-math-errors/

I don't have time to point out all of the fraud to you. I can however, teach you how to use Google.


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Re: Canada's on a roll! [Re: yukon254] #6116075
01/06/18 09:36 PM
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can you teach me too please ...... i wants to know stuff


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Re: Canada's on a roll! [Re: yukon254] #6116091
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lebowski.....The source in this case is meaningless. The court case is real as are the events it describes.


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Re: Canada's on a roll! [Re: yukon254] #6116098
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I thought this thread would be about the World Juniors Hockey Tournament.

Re: Canada's on a roll! [Re: yukon254] #6116106
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to bad with all this gas its so cold out


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Re: Canada's on a roll! [Re: Scuba1] #6116188
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Originally Posted By: Scuba1
can you teach me too please ...... i wants to know stuff
Being conservative, you are already smart enough. You do not need my help. wink


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Re: Canada's on a roll! [Re: yukon254] #6116237
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blush


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Re: Canada's on a roll! [Re: yukon254] #6116579
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My question is, why is the Polar Vortex so cold ? We’ve been told by Algore, that the Arctic is warming, the polar ice cap is shrinking , and the polar bears are drowning ? So why isn’t the polar vortex a heat wave ?

Re: Canada's on a roll! [Re: yukon254] #6116594
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So what you are saying is that I can stop looking for caribou and moose sheds in SC ?? I was getting cold feet


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Re: Canada's on a roll! [Re: Scuba1] #6116602
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Originally Posted By: Scuba1
So what you are saying is that I can stop looking for caribou and moose sheds in SC ?? I was getting cold feet
Nope, keep looking... grin


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Re: Canada's on a roll! [Re: yukon254] #6116645
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Oops.
So Finster do you think I went wrong ordering this ACME do it yourself in ground Olympic swimming pool kit?
Gore said winters are done.
Heck I've been burning the crate material for warmth the last month and a half and can't see yet to the end of the pallets.
No way I can return all this....

Osky


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Re: Canada's on a roll! [Re: Squash] #6116649
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[quote=Squash]My question is, why is the Polar Vortex so cold ? We’ve been told by Algore, that the Arctic is warming, the polar ice cap is shrinking , and the polar bears are drowning ? So why isn’t the polar vortex a heat wave ?


My understanding of global warming is that it will bring colder winters , hotter summers, and bigger storms. All of which are happening . Australia is experiencing a heatwave at the moment temps of 49c (120f) . Spain is dealing with a blizzard I'm far from a scientist or climatologist , this is just my understanding .

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