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Comstock traps #5516126
05/06/16 10:36 PM
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Just ordered my first three for my business and I love them. Jim
And his wife were great to deal with and the traps were here within two days of ordering. Can't wait to put them to use. Quality product and the customer service was exceptional! Thanks a ton Jim !!


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Re: Comstock traps [Re: SifordOutdoorZ] #5516245
05/07/16 03:48 AM
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Yes, the Comstocks are good people that put out a group of quality traps. Comstock traps and Williams traps are all I use now, everything else has been sold or will be sold at the NTA convention. Good luck with your new traps.

Re: Comstock traps [Re: SifordOutdoorZ] #5517489
05/08/16 05:24 PM
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Beaver caught at inlet to big pond next to interstate

Re: Comstock traps [Re: SifordOutdoorZ] #5517491
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This was set with comstock on its side in the water trickle

Re: Comstock traps [Re: SifordOutdoorZ] #5518383
05/09/16 08:32 PM
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Re: Comstock traps [Re: SifordOutdoorZ] #5518937
05/10/16 10:18 AM
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Good thing we have folks like Jim Comstock and others that think out of the box for better trapping methods. He has tweaked & improved them some since they were first brought on board. Kudos to him!! Our go to traps for sure for most every thing.

Re: Comstock traps [Re: SifordOutdoorZ] #5520298
05/11/16 08:26 PM
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That trap was really camouflaged well. Never see it. Amazing that a large cage can sometimes be completed hidden in plain sight. When set the doors don't stick out far, don't stick up above the trap at all so they are less difficult to conceal. Always love trail setting, whether its cages, conibears, snares or footholds.

Re: Comstock traps [Re: SifordOutdoorZ] #5522030
05/13/16 05:48 PM
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Just picked up a couple myself. Was going to cave and get a Hancock but instead I picked up a 12x12 and a 12x18. Look good. Only thing I suspect is the trigger wires are going to get good and hammered by animals in the trap...Maybe I'm wrong.

Re: Comstock traps [Re: SifordOutdoorZ] #5522044
05/13/16 06:15 PM
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They get bent up, but bend back where you want them.

Re: Comstock traps [Re: SifordOutdoorZ] #5522164
05/13/16 08:38 PM
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The softer wire trigger system is challenging to keep them rigid and formed right to intercept the animal preventing them slipping by the wire triggers. I modified all my trap trigger systems with 2 pair of Stainless steel 330 trigger forks over lapped. WCS sells them. Not much adjusting and bending now. They are much easier to set up now.

There is a little work and drilling to get the trigger wires mounted just right, but once its done they are so rigid they just get pushed out of the way when the animal moves around in the trap with very little bending after each catch. They hold their shape nicely.Haven't had any refusals due to the more rigid wire.

Re: Comstock traps [Re: SifordOutdoorZ] #5523126
05/14/16 09:30 PM
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Sounds good. Do you have an pics of what you did? Sill searching for the "perfect" simple set up to replace wires faster.

Re: Comstock traps [Re: SifordOutdoorZ] #5523451
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I will try to get a photo Jim to post today. I don't know if my guys have them set out or not but I will check.

Here some fast photos I just took. The angled wire in the background ( optical delusion effect ) seen through the trap is a phone line cord running from a wall outlet to a cordless phone on a nearby shelf in my shop. Thought I would point that out to those that might ask what is that wire for? confused I should have put a piece of cardboard in the background to get a better photo.

But you should be able to see how I used the 330 triggers to thread through some larger drilled holes to feed the forks through. Then I cinched them with a couple of hog rings to keep them tight. It was just a trial run idea initially that seems to have worked well for me.







My little adjustment made a great trap Gooder. smile

Re: Comstock traps [Re: SifordOutdoorZ] #5525189
05/16/16 10:45 PM
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Looks like a winner. Coon seem to be as tough on trigger wires as anything. Other critters, like chucks, rabbits, not as bad. On a conibear trigger wires hold up well since the animal is deceased of course. When we started using cage traps with wire trigs we never realized certain live animals would be so rough on the wires over one night. Always searching for better, we never give up. For some time we have been working on making a system in which the wires would pop on faster and would be easier to replace, not get bent or require much if any reshaping and seldom require replacing. Whatever improvement is reached will have to first be practical without being pricy. We have tried a number of things, but until its right....

Re: Comstock traps [Re: SifordOutdoorZ] #5525347
05/17/16 07:14 AM
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Would making the bar thicker to use set screws to hold the wires, mess up the balance of the firing trigger?
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Re: Comstock traps [Re: SifordOutdoorZ] #5525418
05/17/16 08:56 AM
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Weight is definitely a consideration for steep angles and or vertical setting. There are always tradeoffs.

Re: Comstock traps [Re: SifordOutdoorZ] #5526096
05/18/16 12:07 AM
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Ran out of regular traps so used a beaver comstock on its side and caught this momma coon...now set up for ghogs in a positive set lol

Re: Comstock traps [Re: SifordOutdoorZ] #5528193
05/19/16 09:44 PM
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We hear lots of guys use the beaver traps for coon. Get pictures of doubles and even a triple. One guy set for a badger and got him.

Re: Comstock traps [Re: SifordOutdoorZ] #5534495
05/27/16 02:26 AM
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I talked to Jim about 6-7 years ago about his traps and ordered a few. I'm getting ready to order 3-4 more. Can't find a more durable, adaptable trap.

I notice there are now 2 different gauge wire types to order and also no covers available. Any input on the gauge size and if the heavy is necessary?

On the wires I've replaced mine with wire clothes hangers. 1 hanger does a trap after straightening it with pliers and cutting it in two. Trim of excess. This works great, holds up well, and most people can get them free.


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Re: Comstock traps [Re: PocketJax] #5534564
05/27/16 07:49 AM
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If your talking about the metal covers, its called a nose cone on his site.

Re: Comstock traps [Re: SifordOutdoorZ] #5535751
05/28/16 04:43 PM
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PocketJax-just my opinion of course but I have a variety of Comstock traps in both 12 and 14 ga. If I had to order new ones today I'd stick with the 14 ga just b/c of weight. I just don't find the heavier wire necessary on my 9x11's.


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Re: Comstock traps [Re: SifordOutdoorZ] #5535775
05/28/16 05:09 PM
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Ditto. I have never known 14 gage wire to fail in 1/2x1 mesh. The 12 gage is for those who know they are particularly rough on gear and are prone to throw things around. The positive setting with nosecones, baitless, has made my life in ADC much better for the past dozen years. We all get calls about a problem skunk, chuck, raccoon only to find out that the client has already tried bait and wait with a single door trap to no avail for some time. Nice to just to drop in a double door with a nose cone and have their critter on the first check.

Re: Comstock traps [Re: SifordOutdoorZ] #5549649
06/12/16 08:58 AM
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Coons do the darndest things. We had Rocky to visit our porch, knocked things around and chewed up anything with scent, terro ant bait, ect. . .

Time for him/her to go. 1st nite, Rocky entered the 9" x 11" wire triggered trap and ate the sardines, left. What ?? A brief exam showed the wire triggers not pushed forward toward the bait, rather they had been pulled back toward the entrance almost 45 degrees, just enough for Rocky to get his head past and enjoy a midnite snack on me. The trigger was on edge, other words if he had of sighed while snacking, it would of gone off. The door would've dropped with about 15 degrees forward movement, but it required 45 degrees of backward motion to drop. A little dremel grinding (be sure to deburr) and fresh sardines. 2nd nite, set 2 traps by the 2 screen doors and in the morning wha - la, a double; got the coon plus a possum.


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Re: Comstock traps [Re: SifordOutdoorZ] #5549835
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As for the trigger wires getting mauled,why not make the trigger wires spring loaded so once fired they get pulled back flat against the cage wire instead of dangling loose in front of the animal?

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Re: Comstock traps [Re: SifordOutdoorZ] #5550149
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For a time the top short rod on the swing bars (about 7/8 inch long) were made a bit long. Some went out from the factory for a short time quite a while back before we caught it. Not wishing to have a short trap fire too quickly, the traps were made so that the trigger would purposely travel to allow the animal to get into the trap deeper before it fired. If the trigger travel is longer than desired, a quick file or grinding on the top of the short rod on the swing bar will make firing quicker with less trigger travel (can be filed at a 45). If a longer trap is used the travel could be made to near zero if that's what you wanted. Traps can be modified to fire with little more than a bump.

Re: Comstock traps [Re: SifordOutdoorZ] #5550547
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Had some little ground hogs going through the trigger wires on the comstocks without setting them off. Threaded a piece of 1/2 x 1 wire on the bottom two trip wires. Worked great. Piece of wire we used is 2 in. high by 7 in long.

Re: Comstock traps [Re: Jim Bethell] #5551809
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My little ground hog fix was to lay the trap on its side. Make oval loops for your trip wires
The little guys cant get by that.

Re: Comstock traps [Re: SifordOutdoorZ] #5552000
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Lots of ways to accommodate baby animals. I have sometimes placed rocks in the bottom and or sticks through the wire to narrow in such a way so as to force them in. You can add some dirt to the bottom to push them into the wires. Also, if the traps are set with the doors closing from the side and trigger wires coming up from the bottom there is just about no way they can get through. I used a 9x11 chuck trap for a baby raccoon the other day. It was an older trap, set upside with trigger wires coming up. Got one of the little buggers, gloved the second one, reset a swing panel trap using the others as "bait," went to the truck and made some calls, came back and had the last.

Re: Comstock traps [Re: SifordOutdoorZ] #5559948
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5-6 pound flathead in comstock today...already got 2 beaver at this job...one in a comstock castor set and other in a 12x16 submerged in creek between 2 ponds

Re: Comstock traps [Re: SifordOutdoorZ] #5563528
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What am I missing? Is setting a submerged "live trap" somehow preferable to a submerged 330?

Re: Comstock traps [Re: SifordOutdoorZ] #5564561
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Much safer when in populated areas that have many non target canines

Re: Comstock traps [Re: Ole] #5564712
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What am I missing? Is setting a submerged "live trap" somehow preferable to a submerged 330?


Your not missing a thing. A 330 is in most cases the best trap to use under water, even in populated areas.

If there is a chance of hurting some one or catching a non target, just don,t make the set. I have caught at least 13,000 beaver and probably over 2000 otter, using a 330. I have never killed a dog or house cat with one. I trap right of ways, homes, farms and cities and have for over 20 years.

In most cases I use a cage trap because it is the best set for the situation, because of climate and the areas I trap. Most of those are land or exposed sets.

If our state required only cage traps, that is a different story.


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Re: Comstock traps [Re: SifordOutdoorZ] #5564997
06/28/16 03:35 PM
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Great job on your catfish catch! Looks like supper. I had a nice catfish the other day too and a couple of turtles, a small snapper and a painted. Had a wood turtle on the outside of a cage recently, just sitting there at the door??? I use cages every day I have a beaver job, beaver #723 today. A swim through cage trap has proven to be superior to conibears, 280's, 330's, 660's, standard and self supporting, magnums or regular, whatever. My experience with conibears since 1966, regular, magnums, many different brands was followed by using cages almost exclusively since Oct. 29, 2010, the day I began using them in ernest. Once I started with swim through cages I never looked back. I don't even bring the other stuff with me, snares, Hancock, CDR or conibears unless there is a specific need, which is quite rare. The speed, ease, safety, versatility and effectiveness in cages is unequalled. Having had the concept for 20 years before it came to fruition, I'm happy to share our experiences and most import love to listen to what others say before I verbalize our position in a trap that began in 2003. What we are hearing more and more from those using swim through cages is what exactly what we have seen. Others have dropped the conibears entirely as they too are experiencing better results with cages than they had with conibears.

Re: Comstock traps [Re: SifordOutdoorZ] #5565333
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Another nice thing about cages here in iowa is that since iowa is a fully submerged 330 and a cage can be set dry on a crossover if needed or half in and half out on a castor or channel

Re: Comstock traps [Re: SifordOutdoorZ] #5565569
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It is a big plus to have beaver traps that can be set under water, in water or on dry land safely, as safety is always a factor because you just never know when or where pets or people will show up in what would seem to be very unlikely places, peace of mind. Water levels can change quickly. I had a dam blow out of a 6 foot culvert the other day right after setting two cages under water. The water was over the culvert when I set the cages, so the dam was holding back quite a pond. Came back the next day, no pond, just a small stream with the cages high and dry. This appears to have been a natural occurrence. The highway department said they did not pull it. In these cases its nice not to have large conibears on land, especially 660's or 1216's. In the past I have had dams pulled by highway departments, leaving conibears exposed and dangerous. Not only are large conibears not legal when set on land in many states, it's just plain scary. And, when either highway departments or a land owner unexpectedly decides to wander down to the pond to pull all or part of a dam, its nice to know they too will be safe.

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