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#518183 - 01/13/08 10:22 PM BOILING - Don't boil cable stakes
trapper addict Offline
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Registered: 12/30/06
Posts: 231
Loc: North Missouri
I found out the hard way it loosens the ferruls

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#518187 - 01/13/08 10:23 PM Re: Don't boil cable stakes [Re: trapper addict]
huntngolf Offline
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Registered: 11/14/07
Posts: 1049
Loc: lancaster/ny
Thanks,I would have boiled them when mine come in

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#518193 - 01/13/08 10:26 PM Re: Don't boil cable stakes [Re: huntngolf]
MNcooner Offline
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Registered: 10/20/07
Posts: 3330
Loc: MN


Kinda scratching my head on this one. As long as you boiled them in plain water I see no reason why that would have loosened the ferrule?

Sounds like you had a bad ferrule to begin with.

But hey, that's just me.
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#518209 - 01/13/08 10:37 PM Re: Don't boil cable stakes [Re: MNcooner]
trapper addict Offline
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Registered: 12/30/06
Posts: 231
Loc: North Missouri
I'm not sure what happened maybe it was laying on the bottom of the pot I also use lye but it sure will happen


Edited by fishermann222 (01/13/08 11:12 PM)
Edit Reason: no nontargets please

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#518260 - 01/13/08 11:16 PM Re: Don't boil cable stakes [Re: trapper addict]
ncrebel8 Offline
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Registered: 12/13/07
Posts: 210
Loc: Warrenton, NC.
I cant say that boiling wont loosen the ferrules, but i cant see how it would do so. I have had new cable stakes that the ferrules werent crimped good on. I always lay alll mine on top of the vise and hit them with a hammer, tightnes them up very good!


Edited by fishermann222 (01/13/08 11:27 PM)

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#518267 - 01/13/08 11:26 PM Re: Don't boil cable stakes [Re: ncrebel8]
big ab Offline
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Registered: 05/07/07
Posts: 1811
Loc: georgia
lye will eat the aluminum ferrules up. a big no no.
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#518285 - 01/13/08 11:36 PM Re: Don't boil cable stakes [Re: big ab]
No-Hands Offline
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 125
Loc: North Dakota formerly Mich.
doesnt bother my snares or the ferules on them.
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#518286 - 01/13/08 11:39 PM Re: Don't boil cable stakes [Re: No-Hands]
ZekeMan Offline
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Registered: 04/19/07
Posts: 1457
Loc: NW Pennsylvania
I throw everything into te boiling pot, and never had a problem. I use the bullet stakes.
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#518288 - 01/13/08 11:40 PM Re: Don't boil cable stakes [Re: ZekeMan]
big ab Offline
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Registered: 05/07/07
Posts: 1811
Loc: georgia
you boil them in lye and never had a problem. How long do you leave them in there?
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#518289 - 01/13/08 11:40 PM Re: Don't boil cable stakes [Re: No-Hands]
DLM Offline
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Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 660
Loc: Maine
I die & wax mine right along with the traps and never had any problems. But as noted above - I wack all mine with a hammer as some come not so well swedged.

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#518374 - 01/14/08 05:04 AM Re: Don't boil cable stakes [Re: DLM]
Grinner Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 630
Loc: N.E. PA
There should not be a problem with boiling in trap dye, however I can see a problem using lye because it will eat the aluminum.

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#518387 - 01/14/08 05:40 AM Re: Don't boil cable stakes [Re: Grinner]
TexA 67 & going Offline
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 4798
Loc: Estherville, IA
big ab said it all..!..

Lye products will disolve Aluminum!!!

Time in the kettle is the big thing. The more time in the kettle, the more deterioration of the aluminum will occur. NEVER put a lye-type-product in a steel or aluminum kettle. The lye will "attack" the aluminum, the more time, the more damage will occur.
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#518453 - 01/14/08 07:08 AM Re: Don't boil cable stakes [Re: TexA 67 & going]
Cattrax Offline
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Registered: 12/28/06
Posts: 8492
Loc: Wy
Never boiled any of my cable trap stakes, I dont see any reason to boil them, they will be driven into the dirt well below the trap, and I have never had a problem catching K9's with unboiled cable stakes.
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#518523 - 01/14/08 08:25 AM Re: Don't boil cable stakes [Re: Cattrax]
2labs Offline
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Registered: 01/02/07
Posts: 320
Loc: Western N Y
I boil mine every yr when I dye traps, some are 10yrs old and still are fine. I have never used any lye.

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#518632 - 01/14/08 10:16 AM Re: Don't boil cable stakes [Re: 2labs]
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 8222
Loc: Iowa, Poweshiek Co.
Like mentioned the lye is the problem with the ferrals.... However removing the oils from the inner strands of cable by boiling it WILL shorten the life of the cable. It will begin and continue to corrode from the inside out whenever it gets wet. Over a few years of use it will get weaker and weaker.

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#518721 - 01/14/08 12:01 PM Re: Don't boil cable stakes [Re: ADC]
trapper addict Offline
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Registered: 12/30/06
Posts: 231
Loc: North Missouri
I didn't no that lye will eat the ferruls never had this problem before I going change to chain on my pogos.

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#518731 - 01/14/08 12:09 PM Re: Don't boil cable stakes [Re: trapper addict]
maverick Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 137
Loc: Valparaiso,Indiana
been there done that keep them out of the lye I have lost a few that way too.

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#518757 - 01/14/08 12:39 PM Re: Don't boil cable stakes [Re: maverick]
Taximan Offline
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Registered: 01/20/07
Posts: 1027
Loc: SW Montana
As stated above,lye dissolves the aluminum ferrules.If you boiled snares before with no problems,they may have steel ferrules.Lye can also remove the galvanized coating that prevents the cables from rusting.I only boil traps in lye or Sani Flush to remove rust and scale prior to dyeing.I'm not sure why you would boil snares and cable stakes in it.Most people boil them in baking soda.Good thing you didn't use an aluminum pot.

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