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Re: Bigger Cages? [Re: LT GREY] #4857384
01/14/15 01:29 PM
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Hazelhurst, WI 54531
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LT Grey,

Sorry to hear you had a bad experience with one of our traps. We have many customers that trap Coyote's with no problems. We stand behind our products and if you would like to contact me at kyle@livetrap.com I can have a replacement sent out. Here are a couple of pictures of other Coyotes trapped in Tomahawk's.




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Re: Bigger Cages? [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #4857388
01/14/15 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted By: Paul Winkelmann
It really doesn't matter how big you make the cages. The customer is still going to say, "That's not my animal. He was twice that size."


ANd the cycle of bigger cages will continue. The customer is always right. At least while they still have a a credit card

Re: Bigger Cages? [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #4857923
01/14/15 06:42 PM
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Minnesota
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I have had to resort to a Taller Trap (one of Kirk's Advanced trap) for Big Boar coon, the Tracks were showing me that the Animal would not enter the 11" trap ... I put up a camera also and finally brought along the bobcat trap and Nailed Him. Several other times I have Set the Taller trap and found out that it worked better for me... those were sod rolling coons...



Transfer from Larger trap into smaller to leave the Big one in the Yard.


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Re: Bigger Cages? [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #4858299
01/14/15 09:18 PM
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Tomahawk,Since everyone deserves a second chance and I'm taking it you're a man of your word...E-mail will be sent.








Re: Bigger Cages? [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #4858827
01/15/15 01:37 AM
01/15/15 01:37 AM
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Tomahawk's 15 x 15 x 42 double-door is my favorite trap for otters on docks because it is big enough to prevent tail escapes and it holds 30 pound otters. Otters are TOUGH and have blown out the doors of lesser traps by two other companies. I have caught about 7 otters in my one Tomahawk in the past year and I'm about to buy another of these traps. My current trap is well-worn but still solid. My current theory is that one should gang set docks with otter toilets and try to catch more of the whole otter family. One otter in a cage is likely the best bait for other otter group members and otter will eventually learn to avoid cages after seeing their friends in them can't get away unless they are also caught during their introduction to cages.

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Re: Bigger Cages? [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #4859128
01/15/15 10:27 AM
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Lt, Grey, I have responded to your email. Thank you for contacting me.


WAUrbanTrapper, Thank you for the compliments. I would love to get a picture of an otter in that model, 109 trap! I do not have one on file yet.


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Re: Bigger Cages? [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #4859464
01/15/15 01:31 PM
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Speaking of Bigger Traps, I just Won this Trap from Tomahawk on Facebook!!!

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January 5 ·


NEW PRODUCT GIVEAWAY! Like and share this post to be entered. Not only will we be giving a trap away each month to celebrate our 90 years in business but we will also be giving away new trap designs and other new products throughout the year. First up is our new model 609SS XL Pro Series 36 x 12 x 12 Trap. It is perfect for XL raccoon, woodchucks or any animal that needs a little extra room in the trap to feel comfortable. This trap features 1/2x1 wire mesh throughout and pan protector bar to prevent animal damage. The winner will be chosen on Thursday the 15th. Good luck!
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Tomahawk Live Trap Congratulations Scott Balts! You are the winner of the contest! Please send us an email at tomahawkfans@gmail.com with your shipping information so we can get the trap to you.

First thing I've won in 35 years!

Re: Bigger Cages? [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #4859490
01/15/15 01:43 PM
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I know when equipment fails, for any reason, the trapper ends up feeling like screaming, makes you sick to your stomach, as we have all had gear let us down at one time or another of every type, snares, footholds, conibears, cages, you name it, none are exempt. There is no one on the planet that feels more angry than me when equipment lets me down. In the imperfect world we live in it seems that trappers and trapping equipment are held to standards few other industries are expected to keep. We expect everything to work perfectly each and every time, but problems, though few for the most part, do arise.

I guess what it most important is fact finding, isolating what went wrong while putting problems into perspective, solving them, while first showing respect and consideration to whoever is making a product by going to him first with the problem, public later if necessary. There are two people who share equally in the success of a product, user and maker. Being on both sides of the fence I can assure you that both want and need the success to continue in their businesses. When I have something break or fail the first thing I do is go to others using the product and the source first. Find out, is this something that has been an ongoing problem or is it a freak one of a kind occurrence? If an equipment maker gets unfairly blamed for a rare failure, it not only does a disservice to the maker, but also slants how a prospective buyer will judge a what may in fact be a reliable device in the future, even if the accusations were not accurate or fair due to a one time failure.

I look for a few things. Does the maker stand by the product? Will he do what he can to make it right? fix what you have or provide you with a replacement on his dime? If you get no satisfaction, there is always the option to blow a gasket, go public and expose the problem for what it is. If you get mad first it's more difficult to go back to nice and never the same because words spoken can not be taken back. I don't like eating crow or apologizing, so I pick my words carefully to begin with, knowing that if I am treated with hostility there are no limits to how nasty I can get later. I guess it just comes down to respect and fairness, "do unto others as you would like them to do to you."

Re: Bigger Cages? [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #4859621
01/15/15 03:03 PM
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As long as Jim had that very intelligent post, there is just one thing I'd like to add: Most of the equipment failures were my fault.

Using a Havahart or any other cheap brand when raccoons already have litters is just asking for trouble. I do feel sorry for the

unwitting customer who falls victim to poorly made cages but all of us should know better. One of my jobs is to fix cages that have

been damaged and we use quality equipment so how do these cages get damaged? The majority of the problems are man-made. Just to name

a few; customers hitting them with their car, technicians dropping or throwing them off of roofs, and slamming the door on them in

the truck or van. If I just had to fix animal damage, I wouldn't know what to do with all my extra time.

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