Re: Caulks
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10/19/14 11:43 AM
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any product that comes in muskrat brown is ok by me........
it is rated for 4 seasons,,,,,,(not as cold as Michigan in WA) It is printable but comes in may colors.........
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Re: Caulks
[Re: DaveK]
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10/19/14 05:38 PM
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Dave, the only thing I have found even close to the same zip code as Solar Seal is geo seal. I don't like it as well but it does come in a plastic tube instead of cardboard like SS. For fixing concrete cracks I prefer Nova Link. I get my SS at Reese Wholesale or I have Fastenal get it in for me. Yes it is paintable. Try it and you will love it, I promise.
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Re: Caulks
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10/19/14 07:05 PM
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Dave,
I've got an article coming out in the Nov/Dec WCT about this. Really quick, Solar Seal is a chemical cure (outdoor only use), self leveling (no tooling) product that in most cases requires bond breaker installation before application especially with larger gaps. In my experience it cures to a milky clear color. It is highly adhesive which makes it difficult, from my perspective, to work with with small or large gaps.
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Re: Caulks
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Dave,
It's currently at the printers so it won't be that long before it is delivered. Although I don't recommend a specific product in the article, in my classes I recommend CWS (Contractor Weatherproof Sealant) from Dow Corning. It belongs with the 790 series which is considered the best adhesive sealant in the business. It doesn't come in clear, but you can color match most common colored structures.
You can find out more by going to dow corning and looking at it under the products tab.
If you prefer a thinner product, but still want good adhesion and cohesion, look at NovaFelx. The translucent dries to a chalky white, but the other colors work very well. According to their sales rep, the only difference between the metal roof sealant and the door & trim sealant is more colors with the door & trim. They will do custom colors as well with a very minimal order of two cases (24 cartridges).
However, if you're looking at using sausages versus cartridges, then you'd be limited to the CWS. In future issues, I'll be reviewing the Cox Powered Sausage gun. It isn't an everyday tool, especially when doing a lot of ladder work, but I was able to run 16 sausages (32 cartridges equivalent) through it on a single charge multiple times with output per sausage based on speed control running from 3 minutes to 20 minutes.
Eric Arnold Publishing Editor W.C.T. Magazine Editor The Fur Taker Magazine
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Re: Caulks
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Your very welcome Dave. I use a ton of the stuff and love it.
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Re: Caulks
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Geo-cell, or pro-seal are very good, paintable caulks. Good adhesion, and minimal shrinkage. Wide latitude as to temperature, as well.
Just doing what I want now.
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Re: Caulks
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10/19/14 11:12 PM
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How do you guys like lexel? I like the way that It cures and Bonds but I don't like the way it applies that much. Osi on the other hand has a very nice texture for applying But i don't like how it will get a grayish color to It after a few months.
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Re: Caulks
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In the middle of summer I switch to maxima Instead of the lexel because it is too runny in extreme Heat. It's fine in heat once it cures but it's too thin to use In the middle of summer.
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Re: Caulks
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10/20/14 04:38 PM
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Solar Seal has to be ordered here making it to much hassle. (I did like it for log/type structures.....
NP1 does not hold up under direct sunlight (2 years on a roof in Arizona)
pro-seal is messy
Geo-cell I don't like,,,,hard for me to get a nice bead.....
Quad has a longer tip making it beneficial on log homes
I have been using loctite Polyseamseal since it came out with great results. I tool it always
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Re: Caulks
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How did quad handle (application) in your heat?
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Re: Caulks
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10/22/14 02:04 AM
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my humble option says,,,,,,,,,,,, that all sealants should be maintained at a temperature of no less then 10 degrees below ambient temperature,,,,,,, unless you are below a certain parallel it goes up from there.............
70 degree caulk is the bomb...........
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Re: Caulks
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hand tooling is the key,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.....grasshopper.................
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Re: Caulks
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tip for hte day,,,,,,sealant will expand if it is used at the right temperature
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Re: Caulks
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10/30/14 03:25 PM
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Just saw lexel first time in lowes this morning. (~$9 per tube)
Looking forward to Eric's article! Good discussion I've used quad the last few years.
I do think that while I never would have thought so before entering this exclusion arena how important the types of sealants, hardware and other accessories essential to the job as well as how to properly employ them would be so crucial.
Lately on some follow behind bat work I'm seeing where folks tried to fill massive gaps with no backer rod or other modification and the caulk shows that this wasn't its intended purpose.
While many learn what works on he job over time and filter their options based on that it is awesome to see an intelligent discussion based on a variety of regions about these products pretty sure knowing the posters we are covered coast to coast.
Justin
Last edited by HD_Wildlife; 10/30/14 03:27 PM.
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