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Re: Flying Squirrels Living in Attic for Decades [Re: FlyersInOhio] #4145062
11/30/13 09:43 AM
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I have had luck with a two foot square piece of cardboard lying on top of the insulation to put traps on. When using cage traps it would be preferable to use plywood. I have also had luck using a shoebox with a two inch hole cut into it with a snap trap inside baited with peanut butter or nutcracker.

Re: Flying Squirrels Living in Attic for Decades [Re: Paul Antczak] #4145098
11/30/13 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted By: Paul Antczak
Like me laugh I'm always learning!!!


Paul we ALL seem to learn something new every day.

For instance I learned yesterday when you put a cage trap in a cellar and the customer says "I will monitor it and call you if we catch anything" you should probably verify that he isn't leaving the next day for a two week trip to Florida.

Re: Flying Squirrels Living in Attic for Decades [Re: FlyersInOhio] #4148122
12/02/13 02:44 AM
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Wrapped up nice flyer job tonight


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Re: Flying Squirrels Living in Attic for Decades [Re: FlyersInOhio] #4148130
12/02/13 03:04 AM
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I just use oneway doors on my flyers hasn't falled yet and comes with a 5 year warranty if does . Flyers are protected here so really couldn't trap them with out permit needed anyway . I basicly treat them like I'm doing bats works for me I'm not changing it till it needs fixing .


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Re: Flying Squirrels Living in Attic for Decades [Re: Peskycritter] #4148984
12/02/13 05:59 PM
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In order to use one way doors, you need to know where the entry/exit hole is located don't you PeskyCritter? No one around here can find the hole.

Re: Flying Squirrels Living in Attic for Decades [Re: FlyersInOhio] #4149125
12/02/13 07:15 PM
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FlyersInOhio, this is not that uncommon. We had one job where we caught over 50 flyers in a several year period. The customers were very pleased that we stayed with them that long and thanks to their older kids, we were eventually shown where a very unique remodel took place and were able to solve the problem. Not everything is cut and dried in this business and no matter how long you live, new stuff keeps popping up every day. I guess that's kind of why we love this work!

Re: Flying Squirrels Living in Attic for Decades [Re: FlyersInOhio] #4149613
12/02/13 10:03 PM
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Sounds like you need a exclusion done by a wildlife control company that does good exclusion work the repairs will need to hold up against attack by rodent . Fixing couple holes is fruitless the whole house needs gone over hands on


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Re: Flying Squirrels Living in Attic for Decades [Re: Peskycritter] #4150327
12/03/13 08:37 AM
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Looking back, I would agree that a good exclusion is what was lacking. Neither of the two ADC companies told me that a full house exclusion is the only way I would be successful.
My carpenter and I may have done it now though. It's so quiet now in the middle of the night that you could hear a pin drop. We'll see what happens.

Last edited by FlyersInOhio; 12/03/13 04:56 PM.
Re: Flying Squirrels Living in Attic for Decades [Re: FlyersInOhio] #4150468
12/03/13 10:36 AM
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Sure in hindsight, it would have been best to have a company like yours(assuming you would travel that far) come down here and seal the house with a 5 year warranty, but these are things I didn't know back then.
Going forward, until I've got some evidence that this new Cobra ridge vent(without metal screen) vent is not doing the job, I'm going to assume that the house is sealed and if I hear anymore wire slapping, I'll keep trying to trap/kill flyers which must be trapped in the attic getting enough moisture to survive. But right now things are very very quiet.
If in the spring(when they become active again) all this optimism of mine blows up in my face, I'll probably throw my hands up and give you a call Peskycritter.

Last edited by FlyersInOhio; 12/03/13 04:53 PM.
Re: Flying Squirrels Living in Attic for Decades [Re: FlyersInOhio] #4150484
12/03/13 10:54 AM
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My company is the company in question.

It is true that we do not have much experience with flying squirrels. There simply are not that many calls for this type of service here in Central Ohio (6 flying squirrel jobs in over 20 years).

After a service fee of $149 we worked on this job for four months and charged NO additional fees. We identified the best possible entry point as the ridge vent and our client chose to have a roofer do the exclusion rather than us. I do not blame him as our price would certainly have been higher than that of a roofer. However, our recommendation to add wire mesh under the ridge vent was not followed. Apparently he is attempting to follow up on the other recommendations we have given also.

While I do not have the exact number in front of me, I am pretty sure we could have done a full exclusion for less than the $6000 quoted above.

I am not posting this to bash "Flyers in Ohio". I know he is frustrated, as am I. I searched the archives and old WCT magazines to try to come up with something. In fact, I was picking brains at the WCT and asked numerous people questions to try to see what other techniques would be feasible to try. Some of you may recall the question I asked the Critter Control presenter at the end of his presentation. This was just after his story about capturing the Flying squirrel in the drawer!!! Unfortunately I did not get the answer I had hoped for.

I will also admit I am a bit embarrassed that I didn't try our trail cameras, I thought a flyer was too small to trip it. After seeing LAtrapper's post I see I was wrong in that.

The main reason I am posting is so that you may see you only get one side of the situation when you reply to posts. Try not to make assumptions about what someone may or may not have done and whether it was appropriate for the situation at hand.

With the number of visits, the time searching for solutions, overhead, etc. etc. we certainly did not make money or rip anyone off (which I do not think "flyers in Ohio" was saying at all, but some others may have thought so). We made professional recommendations for exclusion that the client is following up on. If those recommendations are done in the appropriate fashion, it will solve his problem.

I must admit, after a lifetime of capturing animals and over 20 years in business I am still learning (and trying to improve)!!! I will also say that I am pleased and proud to see everyone here in our community so willing to share their knowledge and information to help someone solve their problems.


Dirk E. Shearer, President
The Wildlife Control Company, Inc.
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Re: Flying Squirrels Living in Attic for Decades [Re: FlyersInOhio] #4150516
12/03/13 11:27 AM
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Everyone, if I had a problem with raccoons or any other kind of animal, I would be calling the 2nd ADC company in a heartbeat. That's how comfortable I feel working with Nate and Dirk. In fact the mention of $6000 for a bat exclusion may have come from the 1st ADC company and not the 2nd.
And Dirk, is correct, it looks like his recommendations are going to work.

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Re: Flying Squirrels Living in Attic for Decades [Re: FlyersInOhio] #4152067
12/04/13 01:58 AM
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Having the Handy man do the exclusion never seems to work to be honest I never know where all the holes are till I get on the house doing the exclusion but do know the week spots are . When giving a warranty got spot the future holes as well


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Re: Flying Squirrels Living in Attic for Decades [Re: FlyersInOhio] #4154680
12/05/13 11:16 AM
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Flyers in Ohio, we would be happy to provide services. Fortunately, in this instance, you were understanding and patient (not all clients are like that to be sure).

I appreciate you taking the additional time to respond and am pleased that you feel confident enough that you would contract our services again if need be. We will continue to work on our flying squirrel acumen, we just don't get that many chances here in central Ohio.

We certainly learn more from our mistakes than we do our successes.

If there is anything we can do to assist you, feel free to give me a call!!!


Dirk E. Shearer, President
The Wildlife Control Company, Inc.
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Re: Flying Squirrels Living in Attic for Decades [Re: FlyersInOhio] #4172899
12/13/13 12:20 PM
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Not that I would deal with this normally, but to add to what you pros have said. I had trouble this year in my far northern bear camp with flyers. Strawberry rhubarb pie. Found by accident with cameras on bear baits they came at all hours, and also while I was still standing there, early evenings to less than 3 feet from me. Crazy for that stuff is all I can say. Cleaned them all up in no time then around the camp.


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Re: Flying Squirrels Living in Attic for Decades [Re: FlyersInOhio] #4276779
01/29/14 12:24 AM
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Call me weird, but if I had flyers in my attic, I would create a living area for them that would separate them from the insulation and wires and such. They are just too cool! I caught one as a kid in a homemade coffee can/mouse trap/hardware cloth live trap. My evil step-mother made me release him. I will never forget it running on flat ground, leaping, gliding, then repeating until it reached the wood line.

Re: Flying Squirrels Living in Attic for Decades [Re: FlyersInOhio] #4276980
01/29/14 07:23 AM
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Ok, You're weird. Have you ever seen or smelled the mess they make. Don't get me wrong I think flying squirrels are very interesting creatures. I really wouldn't want them in a structure that I live in.


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Re: Flying Squirrels Living in Attic for Decades [Re: FlyersInOhio] #4278063
01/29/14 05:57 PM
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Steve, if my wife ever found out that I had flying squirrels all over the basement because I forgot to close the cage, I would be living in the attic for decades.

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Re: Flying Squirrels Living in Attic for Decades [Re: FlyersInOhio] #4279459
01/30/14 09:13 AM
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I'm working a flying squirrel job right now. It took me some time to figure out what bait would catch them but I've pulled 9 out since Monday.

They are endangered here and protected so I'll keep the ones I caught until I can get the whole family. Then when the weather warms up, I'll release them all together.

When I first looked at this house, I had gray squirrels in mind and was baffled as to how they were getting in. I could find no holes or cracks anywhere that they could slip through. It was only after I caught the first one and realized what I was dealing with that I was able to find entry exit points. Now I'm finding places all over everywhere where these little bitty boogers can slip through.

When I get them all caught out, me or the carpenter one, is gonna have a LOT of work to do.


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Re: Flying Squirrels Living in Attic for Decades [Re: ritrapper] #4280731
01/30/14 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted By: ritrapper
Ok, You're weird. Have you ever seen or smelled the mess they make. Don't get me wrong I think flying squirrels are very interesting creatures. I really wouldn't want them in a structure that I live in.

Well stated. Many of us in the business spend a lot of time doing a lot of lethal control, and many of us have a weakness for certain critters. I felt the need to share mine.

Re: Flying Squirrels Living in Attic for Decades [Re: FlyersInOhio] #4308870
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Muddawg what kind of bait you using? If you don't want to tell it here in public but don't mind another company to know just shoot me a pm.


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