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#418723 - 11/18/07 03:18 PM Staking In Water
SalinaKSCooner Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 593
Loc: Salina Kansas
How do you stake in water with a bottom of mud and sand mixture?

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#418727 - 11/18/07 03:21 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: SalinaKSCooner]
deaddownwind Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/17/07
Posts: 44
Loc: Mississippi
I would bring something large and heavy so the animal you are trying to trap cant move it and tie the chain to it
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#418728 - 11/18/07 03:21 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: SalinaKSCooner]
trapperman_58 Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/27/06
Posts: 233
Loc: Vermillion, South Dakota
i use a wood stake about 16 inch long on all the water traps and sand bottom you have to find something to wire the trap to, whether its a log,tire,root or what ever, good luck
mike

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#418729 - 11/18/07 03:21 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: SalinaKSCooner]
Creektrapper Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1671
Loc: Wetumpka, AL
What kind of critters are you aiming to catch?

I usually use 24" rebar stakes. Sometimes I'll use Berkshires Soft Bottom cable stakes. There work good around beaver dams.

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#418739 - 11/18/07 03:28 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: Creektrapper]
LT GREY Offline
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Registered: 04/09/07
Posts: 16167
Loc: Central Ohio
I make what I call a "boot stake" which has a 4" square flat head as opposed to a 1/2 inch bar, such as a T-bar. It is much easier to shove in with your foot underwater. I have also used Iowa disposible stakes (or similar types), with a long driver.
One trick I have used is by using a drowner and looping it back into the bank in a u shape. Never had an animal get back to the bank. They will all be out in the current, drown! This is something I came up with for rocky creeks, where you couldn't get a stake in, if you tried.

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#418782 - 11/18/07 03:49 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: LT GREY]
SalinaKSCooner Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 593
Loc: Salina Kansas
Well im going after coon but i had a beaver pull out today.

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#418854 - 11/18/07 04:40 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: SalinaKSCooner]
shanemoss Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1993
Loc: Cook Springs, Alabama/ SE WI
I got into that today. Lots of good locations but I couldnt get anything to hold. I have some disposable stakes i made outa metal conduit that are eight inchs long and they work great in those mucky bottoms but i left them at home. I even tried double stakes with 24" rebar and no way it was gonna hold a beaver.
shane
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#418862 - 11/18/07 04:44 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: shanemoss]
coonhusker Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 1032
Loc: mid-east, NE
pogos
2" w/ 18" of cable.
never had a pullout w/ them.
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#419079 - 11/18/07 06:55 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: coonhusker]
baker Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1726
Loc: south central,Nebraska-20yrs
pogo's are all i use..just like coonhusker, i love them and have never had one budge a pogo. also i like it cuz if i can get a bar thru the cable, i can usually pull them out..given a little effort.
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#419097 - 11/18/07 07:02 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: baker]
SNIPERBBB Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 2374
Loc: Rodney,Ohio
Hard to beat a good wood stake. Kinda depends on how loose the bottom is with the sand. Else I like long t-bar stakes

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#419108 - 11/18/07 07:07 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: SNIPERBBB]
LT GREY Offline
trapper

Registered: 04/09/07
Posts: 16167
Loc: Central Ohio
In the right condition...a T-Bar is hard to beat! ;\)

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#419111 - 11/18/07 07:10 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: LT GREY]
SNIPERBBB Offline
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Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 2374
Loc: Rodney,Ohio
true lol. Though I like to keep the weight down and wood stakes are generally lighter than rebar :P Everything has its limits.

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#419113 - 11/18/07 07:11 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: LT GREY]
fishdaddy Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/03/07
Posts: 4671
Loc: southern W.Va.40 yrs old
lt grey i think ill make some ones like you mentioned with the 4 in flat stock. thanks for the tip.
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#419119 - 11/18/07 07:13 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: fishdaddy]
shanemoss Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1993
Loc: Cook Springs, Alabama/ SE WI
Pogo's were useless where i was today. Or my 24" were anyway.
shane
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#419197 - 11/18/07 07:44 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: shanemoss]
ketchikan Offline
trapper

Registered: 02/02/07
Posts: 1169
Loc: Midwest
double staking is the way to go, get a butterfly double staking device

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#419218 - 11/18/07 07:56 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: ketchikan]
Ole Hawkeye Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 9569
Loc: Oregon
A DRY wood stake will swell considerably when it is driven and be darned hard to pull.

Lt grey, tell me more about that U shaped drowner, I'm having a hard time getting my brain around it. Sounds like something I could find useful.
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#419233 - 11/18/07 08:02 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: Ole Hawkeye]
fishdaddy Offline
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Registered: 01/03/07
Posts: 4671
Loc: southern W.Va.40 yrs old
 Originally Posted By: Ole Hawkeye
A DRY wood stake will swell considerably when it is driven and be darned hard to pull.

Lt grey, tell me more about that U shaped drowner, I'm having a hard time getting my brain around it. Sounds like something I could find useful.

the way i understood it was a long piece of cable from one bank to the other looped around something.
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#419267 - 11/18/07 08:19 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: fishdaddy]
shanemoss Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1993
Loc: Cook Springs, Alabama/ SE WI
The way i took it was both ends of the drowner cable was anchored to the same bank. It would hang in the middle of the cable cause it would have no tension past the middle to slide anymore. And use in current. My take anyway. ketchican, double stakes would not hold either. My creeks are dry with just a little water infront of dams. Mar up to your knees muddy. Only thing i could use today on that creek was log/drags for coon and mink, and driveing stakes thru old logs of dams to anchor snares.
shane
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#419272 - 11/18/07 08:20 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: shanemoss]
shanemoss Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1993
Loc: Cook Springs, Alabama/ SE WI
I didnt get the boot stake though. Is the 4"x4" like a cap on the stake or welded to the side near the bottom like a fin (like the things on metal fence post)?
shane
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#419276 - 11/18/07 08:24 PM Re: Staking In Water [Re: fishdaddy]
RR 3 Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 610
Loc: north central Kansas
You should be trapping about the same soil type as me (pure sand) I stake with a 48" t top rebar stake. You will lose a beaver every now and then but not very often. You should be able to push the stake in by hand without pounding.

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