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Bats in exterior can lights #3985464
09/05/13 10:47 PM
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Checked a commercial building today and it seems that the bats are gaining access to the ceiling through the recessed lighting over the front entry. With the heat that these lights build I'm not sure what options are available to solve their problem. I remember a recent post on this but couldn't find it through the search bar. Any suggestions on a solution would be appreciated.

Re: Bats in exterior can lights [Re: mchitwood] #3985494
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If they are can lights you can get clear covers (plexi style) that are made for wet locations etc...

I had a client with 40 cans on a new porch Yuma myotis were in at least 50% of them!

I think David (warrior) has seen this or put some thoughts in as well last time.

Mine were actually day roosting in the can. Not using it to enter the attic or floor above.

Justin

Re: Bats in exterior can lights [Re: mchitwood] #3985513
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I saw no bats during the inspection but droppings were under the fixtures and on the bulbs. The ceiling is fiberglass screen with spaced boards nailed over. The screens are not sealed well around the edges and have a few slits opened between boards. Plan will be to remove and replace fiberglass with well sealed aluminum blackout screen and cover the cans. Do you have a supplier for the industrial can covers?

Re: Bats in exterior can lights [Re: mchitwood] #3985516
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This one was in the front porch can. All I had to do was install the right size flood lamp to keep the bat from getting up there.

Re: Bats in exterior can lights [Re: mchitwood] #3985525
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Wonder if he snacked on those dirt daubers while he was up there?

Re: Bats in exterior can lights [Re: mchitwood] #3985530
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I kinda wondered the same thing.

Re: Bats in exterior can lights [Re: mchitwood] #3985531
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M- for homeowner sized cans Home Depot or lowes will have some, but you might need a commercial lighting place to order some if yours are larger industrial.

Though franks idea sounds great too!

Re: Bats in exterior can lights [Re: mchitwood] #3985540
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Thanks Justin, they are larger than home sized so I'll lookup a local commercil lighting company in the morning. I appreciate the suggestion Frank but I don't know that I could find a bulb that big!

Matt

Re: Bats in exterior can lights [Re: mchitwood] #3985562
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No problem Matt, I'll say thanks as well to frank, for smaller residential cans I'm stealing that one!
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Re: Bats in exterior can lights [Re: mchitwood] #3987591
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this is how I get them out of the cans before I put 1/4' mesh over the light fixtures. this is a transmission funnel with a excluder tube taped to it to get the bats out . I will be looking for the covers that have been mentioned above . They would look a lot better then the wire mesh .


Re: Bats in exterior can lights [Re: mchitwood] #3987787
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I like that excluder dew!

Re: Bats in exterior can lights [Re: HD_Wildlife] #3988041
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Before messing with any can lights be sure that you do not ever seal off the manufacturers ventilation hole inside the can. Especially with any combustible materials. I would suggest that you look inside the can at the label and see what style trim kits are permissible for that fixture. If you use a piece of equipment or material not listed for that purpose you can open up some liability issues for yourself. In this case I would suggest calling a licensed electrician or even your local electrical inspector.

Re: Bats in exterior can lights [Re: mchitwood] #3989916
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Here's some live action can light bat removal . I find if you sweet talk them they don't seem to hit you in the face as much on there way out .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vot1aaozcf0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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Re: Bats in exterior can lights [Re: Peskycritter] #3989998
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Originally Posted By: Peskycritter
Here's some live action can light bat removal . I find if you sweet talk them they don't seem to hit you in the face as much on there way out .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vot1aaozcf0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

This is what I get from your link.


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Re: Bats in exterior can lights [Re: mchitwood] #3990791
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Sorry had it locked but it's unlocked now


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Re: Bats in exterior can lights [Re: mchitwood] #3991256
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Pesky,

Just to clarify, are you using the tin snips to grab the bat in the can? Or just using them to prod the bat to get it to fly out?

Also wondering, why no gloves, though I believe this has been asked more than a few times for your videos. I'm assuming your
videos are public viewing right, thus johnny public or jill can assume they don't have any worry to do the same thing with no gloves?

This video, would make a better piece for you if you showed proper PPE and could have still detailed all the other aspects of finding bats in can lighting.

From the angle, it looks like the snips were being opened and closed in a way that would grab the bat, can think of about 100 things in my van that would accomplish getting the bat out without grabbing a wing or body part with a cutting edge.

Hope you can let me know on that one, thanks,

Justin

Re: Bats in exterior can lights [Re: mchitwood] #3991700
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Man, do you know how this hurts? If Pesky is anything like me, he will tell you that when you are wearing gloves and can't see what you are doing, you have twice the chance of getting bitten because you also can't feel what you are doing.

Gloves are fine in daylight, but to be perfectly honest, I wear them for the customer's benefit, not mine. I have been bitten a number of times and gloves would not have solved stupidity.

Re: Bats in exterior can lights [Re: mchitwood] #3991721
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Here's the rest of the video so you know the bat wasn't harmed in anyway . I don't wear gloves never have and never will unless my handling something dead or bloody

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms0BjhCqzkE&feature=youtube_gdata_player


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Re: Bats in exterior can lights [Re: mchitwood] #3991893
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Paul, I believe we could just put an disclaimer symbol next to any post you make about gloves and being bitten lol!! Honestly I know you don't tend to use em, and yes I know you've been bitten and are still here with us thankfully.

My issue is more what we do and show, and though yes a bite is usually part of a rabies exposure, simple saliva in cuts or scrapes (which we all have on our hands) is all it technically takes, especially if the next time the hands are washed is later at home.

Pesky, thanks for the rest of the video, but did you use the snips to grab the bat? Just curious because again, it seems there are many things that will make that bat bail out without using something with a cutting edge that could damage the wing membrane or break a bone.

By the way, simple rubber gloves are all I'm asking for, nitrile, etc... you don't need heavy gloves that reduce dexterity if your not planning to "mug" something in a way that would allow a bite.

Re: Bats in exterior can lights [Re: mchitwood] #3992248
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Justin, you are an educated professional; do not assume that others on this forum share your ethics and management practices.
Do not attempt to educate those who take pride in ignorance.
Do not explain ethics to those who cannot grasp the concept.

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