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My state is testing the bow mag #3756336
04/12/13 12:42 PM
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My state is looking making this legal for both bow and cross bow . Its sold under hunting and for damage control work . Anybuddy ever use 357 mag tipped arrow heads . Looks like it works like a bang stick for sharks I've seen .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAFcl3SamHc&feature=youtube_gdata_player


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Re: My state is testing the bow mag [Re: Peskycritter] #3756346
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Looks like a great tool!


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Re: My state is testing the bow mag [Re: Peskycritter] #3756353
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Sweet. Looks like something Rambo would love.


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Re: My state is testing the bow mag [Re: Peskycritter] #3756622
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Can't see it being legal anywhere, certainly not in Mo.


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Re: My state is testing the bow mag [Re: Peskycritter] #3756679
04/12/13 04:51 PM
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BigBob, how long do you think it will take before the expoding arrowhead is the new weapon of choice on TV?

Re: My state is testing the bow mag [Re: Peskycritter] #3756705
04/12/13 05:10 PM
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What is left of a carbon fiber arrow afterward? Its a cool tool, but I like my arrows too much than to blow them up.

Re: My state is testing the bow mag [Re: Peskycritter] #3756787
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There's no damage to the arrow . It saves your arrow if anything . Not so sure about your target . Thing sure puts a hog down . I bet it would geese as well


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Re: My state is testing the bow mag [Re: Peskycritter] #3756804
04/12/13 06:24 PM
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Couldn't see anybody blowing his foot off with that, eh?


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Re: My state is testing the bow mag [Re: Peskycritter] #3756814
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I could see it blowing through a goose, snapping a bikini, and sinking a boat.

Re: My state is testing the bow mag [Re: Peskycritter] #3756816
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What an imagination!


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Re: My state is testing the bow mag [Re: Peskycritter] #3756819
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Now, I am envisioning the sound effects.

Re: My state is testing the bow mag [Re: Peskycritter] #3756836
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HOONNK!....ptwinnnng....doont!...glug glug...
I'm a Don Martin (Mad magazine) fan from way back!


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Re: My state is testing the bow mag [Re: Dave Schmidt] #3756845
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Re: My state is testing the bow mag [Re: Peskycritter] #3756849
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A guy could make a fortune on trapper cartoons.

Re: My state is testing the bow mag [Re: Peskycritter] #3756874
04/12/13 07:08 PM
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On a posative note I can see the tool being usefull in areas where an animal can't leave a blood trail, like swamps. Also for the blood trail impared shooter, such as myself. (Color Blind) I am however a tough sale especially when it comes to archery equipment. I have stuck several deer between the eyes, so it's not the head shot that makes me skeptical. It's more the accuracy in weight.

Re: My state is testing the bow mag [Re: Peskycritter] #3757245
04/12/13 10:27 PM
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Seems might s good answer for people looking to remove whitetail , hogs , geese ect in areas with firearm restriction like them 5 county's In IL or in city's around me that's open to archery but closed to firearm . You can't just go fliging arrows and have your critter run threw a niegbor hood . This thing here down on the spot . How about them coyote jobs that people find problems with for dispatch because there in the city . This will be classified as archery just like bow fishing is classified fishing . You thing forsure there's dozens of broad head making company's out there going wow why didn't we think of this . Sure all traditional archery guys will view this negative . For my state I can see why there testing hoping they can add this . There looking to do anything to get more guys out in the field and that's a good thing . You take a 10 yearold armed with 357mag arrows he can now put the smack down . Not sure how many of you ever hunted geese on a golf corse with a bow but this would work great for that in the city limits


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Re: My state is testing the bow mag [Re: Peskycritter] #3757382
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They got one for birds to . It some how shoots steel shot .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEO5Dh85lvg&feature=youtube_gdata_player


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Re: My state is testing the bow mag [Re: Peskycritter] #3757545
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So, even tho it uses bullets, its not a firearm? Is it using a blank? I looked up the definition of a firearm and it differs by state and fed standards. Most of them, if it uses bullets and has a projectile, its a firearm I believe. Do they make a black powder one? LOL!

Re: My state is testing the bow mag [Re: Peskycritter] #3757725
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When I took hunters safety way back before the war they showed us what a bullet does with out a compression and with out a barrel . The bullet never did anything . They had this clamp like bullet holder with a string attacted to a spring loaded firing pin . You surly would have massive damage to your hand if you were holding it . That was the point to show what a possable miss fire could result in if you ejected a shell after it didn't fire and grabbed it right away to see why .
You can buy a Ramset nail gun that does shoot a projectile with gun powder and that's not a firearm it's a nail gun .
As a bow hunter I personally would not use some bullet tipped arrow for the simple fact it must be louder then a simple broad head . On a good day bow hunting when things are just right letting a few walk by then finally start seeing the deer I wish to eat I've shot two deer min apart a few times . They start moving threw time to fill them tags .
I'm not against people using it ether if it helps them fill there tags . This thing might not even work that well like it shows could be a gimmick . It could save your live if your be stalked by one of them European beavers .
Funny Mike I was thinking the same thing wonder if you could load your own like a muzzle loader .


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Re: My state is testing the bow mag [Re: Peskycritter] #3758005
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A stardard firearm cartridge when fired outside of a pressure vessel (chamber of a a firearm) becomes a grenade, albeit much much less powerful than the standard M67HE in current military use. The weak point of the cartridge bursts, the brass case, rather than the controlled pressure release that sends the bullet down the barrel. My question is at what point is the cartride fired. Does the arrow penetrate and fire the cartridge inside the animal or does it fire on contact. This could mean the difference between an ugly but crippling surface wound or massive and lethal internal damage.


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Re: My state is testing the bow mag [Re: Peskycritter] #3758320
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Ive used bang tips on spiers before, and just a .223 does a massive number on a good sized fish. Blanks seem to do the same job, and they were laying all over the place for free. But that was under water and the concussion did most of the work. I suppose a head shot with even a field tip would drop a hog, but the charge makes it more effective. Even if it just knocks him out, it gives you time to get a knife in his boiler room before the lights come back on. I wouldnt try them on a body shot with any animal.

Re: My state is testing the bow mag [Re: Peskycritter] #3758382
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Mike, as blunt as it is, I doubt there'd be any penetration. It would be like firing target points in that regard.


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Re: My state is testing the bow mag [Re: Peskycritter] #3758553
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If the shell going off on contact wont do anything but burn fur, then whats the point(so to speak) Dave? My bow pushes a Grim Reaper all the way through a deers skull. I prefer a double lung, but when the grass is high sometimes all you can see is the brain bucket.
I am also aware that a hog has a denser skull, and I have yet to take a head shot on a hog with a bow. I saw the video, and Im gonna try some this year. I can see the advantage to a hog not tipping over in the middle of a car lot on a Saterday afternoon, or in a public park. Hogs are tough customers and the video showed them taken down a notch real fast.

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What's the point? $$$$$$$

Re: My state is testing the bow mag [Re: Peskycritter] #3758636
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Probobably, LOL!!

Re: My state is testing the bow mag [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #3761469
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Originally Posted By: Paul Winkelmann
BigBob, how long do you think it will take before the expoding arrowhead is the new weapon of choice on TV?

TV and reality don't often mesh.
Ever watch the old Dukes of Hazzard TV show? Hollywood rules applied, they were supposedly burdened by the '68 GCA, so they weren't allowed to posses firearms, but they ran around with bows and Dynamite arrows blowing crap up. And didn't Rambo use one once?


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