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#3164934 - 05/19/12 03:09 PM Groundhog With Plastic Bag...WHY
Phil Nichols Offline
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A previous customer called to ask a question. She was belly down on the chaise lounge by the pool, half asleep. She heard a rustling/crinkling noise and opened her eyes to see a groundhog right next to her. It was glaring at her, and had a plastic shopping bag in its mouth. She, being a female, screamed, ran into the house and called me. I had no explanation but assured her I would consult with the most august group of groundhog whisperers on this planet.

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#3164981 - 05/19/12 03:47 PM Re: Groundhog With Plastic Bag...WHY [Re: Phil Nichols]
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Nesting material, I've also seen them pull tarps and grill covers off of a deck and down the hole.
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#3165108 - 05/19/12 06:06 PM Re: Groundhog With Plastic Bag...WHY [Re: trapper4hire]
Phil Nichols Offline
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Originally Posted By: trapper4hire
Nesting material, I've also seen them pull tarps and grill covers off of a deck and down the hole.


It is May 19th here in PA. I would think nest building should be over by now both here and where you are. Plus I have the feeling this is a male.

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#3165111 - 05/19/12 06:08 PM Re: Groundhog With Plastic Bag...WHY [Re: Phil Nichols]
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I would say nesting material as well.
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#3165170 - 05/19/12 07:33 PM Re: Groundhog With Plastic Bag...WHY [Re: Phil Nichols]
andyva Offline
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They sometimes feel the need to change the sheets. I watched one (through a 24-power scope of course) once, make about a 500 yard round trip carrying burdock leaves to its hole in a new-mown hayfield, midsummer.
When I was a young pup, I had to perfect my survival skills with knowledge passed down by an amuzed and demented oldtimer. I spent alot of time "twisting out" groundhogs. A brutal practice involving a 12 year old and some barbed wire. One thing I do remember was finding a lot of plastic, shopping bags, tarps, and black plastic sheeting. Some of it was in places that you would have considered wilderness, plastic can blow a long way though.

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#3165211 - 05/19/12 08:10 PM Re: Groundhog With Plastic Bag...WHY [Re: Phil Nichols]
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I have seen them use that type of material to block the burrows to reduce draft flow into the burrow prior to winter and possibly to keep their nesting area dry.I have seem them plug their burrows with various weed block material and walmart type bags down the hole 2-4 feet.I have dug some out years ago when fox denning and recovering the pups back when I was a younger stronger stupid lad.:)

Could be a late litter as many of our hogs have birthed here with pups out of the den already, as well as fox pups. Have seen fox pups out of the den for over 3 weeks now.
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#3165213 - 05/19/12 08:12 PM Re: Groundhog With Plastic Bag...WHY [Re: andyva]
Phil Nichols Offline
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Originally Posted By: andyva
They sometimes feel the need to change the sheets. I watched one (through a 24-power scope of course) once, make about a 500 yard round trip carrying burdock leaves to its hole in a new-mown hayfield, midsummer.
When I was a young pup, I had to perfect my survival skills with knowledge passed down by an amuzed and demented oldtimer. I spent alot of time "twisting out" groundhogs. A brutal practice involving a 12 year old and some barbed wire. One thing I do remember was finding a lot of plastic, shopping bags, tarps, and black plastic sheeting. Some of it was in places that you would have considered wilderness, plastic can blow a long way though.


Andy VA - twisting out groundhog with barbed wire ...... did you ever twist out a skunk?

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#3165245 - 05/19/12 08:37 PM Re: Groundhog With Plastic Bag...WHY [Re: Bob Jameson]
Phil Nichols Offline
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Originally Posted By: Bob Jameson
I have seen them use that type of material to block the burrows to reduce draft flow into the burrow prior to winter and possibly to keep their nesting area dry.I have seem them plug their burrows with various weed block material and walmart type bags down the hole 2-4 feet.I have dug some out years ago when fox denning and recovering the pups back when I was a younger stronger stupid lad.:)

Could be a late litter as many of our hogs have birthed here with pups out of the den already, as well as fox pups. Have seen fox pups out of the den for over 3 weeks now.


Robert, I also was once younger, stronger, & stupider.

Fox jobs this year are off the wall. We are bombing, trapping, shooting, scaring and
installing barriers. The pups we see are 3/4 size now - mid May.

Mild winter here would think everything be early.

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#3165250 - 05/19/12 08:43 PM Re: Groundhog With Plastic Bag...WHY [Re: Phil Nichols]
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Never sucessfully got a groundhog that hadn't been shot first. Another old timer, this one not quite as sadistic as the first, told me that the twisting thing was used back in hard times, and required some shovel work to catch the live, unwounded groundhog in a dead end tunnel. Before the advent of barbed wire they used a green sapling sharpened to a point and split about six inches.
Never twisted out a skunk, did get into a two ended tunnel under a rock situation once. Buddy poked in his end with a stick. I was watching to see when the "coon" came out far enough to cut the dogs loose on my side. Saw a skunk backing out, opened my mouth to say something, saw yellowish cloud. Couldn't see anything or say anything for awhile after that. No-good buddy made me walk home.

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#3165353 - 05/19/12 10:04 PM Re: Groundhog With Plastic Bag...WHY [Re: andyva]
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Nesting or denning material. I think Phil is right a male who couldn't resist ogling thinking if he was only human.
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#3165362 - 05/19/12 10:13 PM Re: Groundhog With Plastic Bag...WHY [Re: Phil Nichols]
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Originally Posted By: Phil Nichols
Originally Posted By: trapper4hire
Nesting material, I've also seen them pull tarps and grill covers off of a deck and down the hole.


It is May 19th here in PA. I would think nest building should be over by now both here and where you are. Plus I have the feeling this is a male.



I've seen both sexes pull stuff down the hole at different times of the year, changing the sheets as someone else put it. Nesting/bedding material gets soiled and matted quickly when your floor, walls, and ceiling are dirt. Actually its probably more likely he stopped in at walmart for some cabbage and apples. they were in the bag the homeowner was just too startled to notice.
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#3165568 - 05/20/12 07:48 AM Re: Groundhog With Plastic Bag...WHY [Re: Phil Nichols]
Jonesie Offline
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Na Phil the reason for the trash bag is they use it for a moisture barrier in the den, they don't like to feel the dampness plus the plastic on the soil under the straw bedding and up the walls keeps mold from starting, you know they have had a out break of mold related heath issues lately.

seriously I have seen it done but have know idea why.
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#3166276 - 05/20/12 05:34 PM Re: Groundhog With Plastic Bag...WHY [Re: Phil Nichols]
Paul Winkelmann Offline
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Woodchucks are extremely uncoordinated and besides that, the often get stuck with the same dang shopping cart that I usually get. Loudspeaker: CLEAN-UP in the produce aisle!

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#3179233 - 06/08/12 10:36 PM Re: Groundhog With Plastic Bag...WHY [Re: Phil Nichols]
Dave Schmidt Offline
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'Chuck: Girlfrien', I hear there's a sale goin' on down at Kmart. I'm ready to go!
Woman: ahhh...EEEEEK!
Woodchuck (to camera): Wass wrong with her? She don' like Kmart!?
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#3179302 - 06/09/12 01:29 AM Re: Groundhog With Plastic Bag...WHY [Re: Dave Schmidt]
Phil Nichols Offline
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Dave
are you OK?

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#3188182 - 06/15/12 10:33 PM Re: Groundhog With Plastic Bag...WHY [Re: Phil Nichols]
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maybe it was a coon dragging trashin a hole, and not even a chuck. just like how i get calls for moles climbing up the house and chewing into the attic. a mistaken identity?
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#3224155 - 07/12/12 08:36 PM Re: Groundhog With Plastic Bag...WHY [Re: Phil Nichols]
Peskycritter Offline
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Registered: 02/13/12
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Loc: south east michigan
This is my new set that I named after professional wildlife control expert Phil Nickols . After reading this thread I knew what kinda lure should be used

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUNt1o4bHAo&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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#3226230 - 07/14/12 02:57 PM Re: Groundhog With Plastic Bag...WHY [Re: Peskycritter]
Phil Nichols Offline
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Loc: Chocowinity, NC
Originally Posted By: Peskycritter
This is my new set that I named after professional wildlife control expert Phil Nickols . After reading this thread I knew what kinda lure should be used

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUNt1o4bHAo&feature=youtube_gdata_player


Thank you Ryan. Prefer you refer me as a respected elderly member of our tribe, instead of "professional wildlife control expert Phil Nickols." Oh by the way, you are also on this totem pole keem-o-sabee, along with many others.


Edited by Phil Nichols (07/14/12 02:57 PM)

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#3226359 - 07/14/12 05:17 PM Re: Groundhog With Plastic Bag...WHY [Re: Phil Nichols]
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That does not look like a chuck hole to me ? Most I see in customers lawns have huge excavation material piles outside the hole smile

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#3226403 - 07/14/12 05:51 PM Re: Groundhog With Plastic Bag...WHY [Re: Phil Nichols]
Peskycritter Offline
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The tailing pile is in the bushes , theres atleast three holes all connected .that hole was dug from the inside out .
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