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#3164687 - 05/19/12 10:54 AM BAT EXCLUISION PICS
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Edited by trapper4hire (05/19/12 11:09 AM)
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#3164717 - 05/19/12 11:29 AM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: trapper4hire]
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That's differnt kind of door than I've seen before . I bet that gets them out fast .
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#3164724 - 05/19/12 11:36 AM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: trapper4hire]
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No flapper on the end ?
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#3164855 - 05/19/12 01:39 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: trapper4hire]
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i was wondering about the one way door also?
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#3164872 - 05/19/12 02:03 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: trapper4hire]
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What size is the mesh on the wire? Almost looks too big in the pics....anyway, nice work!

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#3164931 - 05/19/12 03:05 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: trapper4hire]
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They are going to climb back in...

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#3164955 - 05/19/12 03:29 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: ]
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The mesh is 1/2 X 1/2 ,16 gauge. Ive never used a bat excluder with a flapper, always horizontal tubes, drop valves like this one, and I use 1/4 netting ocaisionally. Ive only used this system about 50 times in the last 2 years, havent had any bats figure it out yet. Ive watched them work on it before, they all concentrate on fighting to get through up at the funnel end, they dont travel that far AWAY FROM their "door" to figure it out.

Originally Posted By: DaveK
They are going to climb back in...


Apparently your bats are smarter than ours..... but our football players are smarter than yours.LOL


Edited by trapper4hire (05/19/12 03:44 PM)
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#3164969 - 05/19/12 03:37 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: Barehunter]
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Originally Posted By: Barehunter
What size is the mesh on the wire? Almost looks too big in the pics....anyway, nice work!




Very nice design, but some bats ( Indiana Browns ) are able to get through 1 x 1 " wire.
I have had bats go through 1x 1, so I switched to a smaller mesh.

I always use 1/4" x 1/4 " wire now or netting that is 1/4 x 1/4 ".

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#3164973 - 05/19/12 03:39 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: LT GREY]
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Originally Posted By: LT GREY
Originally Posted By: Barehunter
What size is the mesh on the wire? Almost looks too big in the pics....anyway, nice work!




Very nice design, but some bats may be able to get through 1 x 1 " wire.
I have had bats go through 1x 1, so I switched to a smaller mesh.

I always use 1/4" x 1/4 " wire now or netting that is 1/4 x 1/4 ".


the meash is 1/2 by 1/2, you can't manually force a bat through it so I'm confident they dont get through on their own efforts. 1/4 by 1/4 netting is good also, switched to this because its easily reusable.


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#3164975 - 05/19/12 03:41 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: trapper4hire]
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That design is top notch on that type of brick structure, nice job !

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#3164991 - 05/19/12 03:57 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: DaveK
They are going to climb back in...


I was thinking the same thing looks like they still have both total ingress and egress. Beautiful craftsmanship looks like 1/2 " wire fabric mesh and that you put a lot of time into it; there are easier and simpler methods that are less labor intensive ie: Fluorescent Tube Protector or caulk tubes and duct tape.


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#3165017 - 05/19/12 04:23 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: Robb Russell]
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These excluders take about 15 minutes to make and maybe $2 in material. but they are DURABLE I only need to build them once. Bob obviously this unit would not work on an entry like in your pic, but theres no single device that works everywhere. As with all my posts I'm not saying MY WAY is the best, I'm just dispalyimg tools or methods that work for me in certain situations. but thank you for the compliment on craftsmanship. This tool works great for dormers and separated facia. and it wont get destroyed in the back of my truck like a plasti tube.




got some pm about horizontal tubes so here they are. before the PROS start critiqueing me this tube does get some gorilla tape as extra bonding/sealing at point of attatchment.


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#3165065 - 05/19/12 05:15 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: trapper4hire]
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Bats are PRIMAL CREATURES, too threatening of a barrier will make them withdraw back into the structure ! !

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#3165132 - 05/19/12 06:46 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: trapper4hire]
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I was thinking the same thing about them climbing back in, but I use a similar type of setup to exclude snakes and it does work. Wonder if the mesh disperses the smell and they just go for the source?
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#3165156 - 05/19/12 07:16 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: trapper4hire]
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Good funnel design. Crawl backs may be possible with certain devices with alot of climb / attachment potential.Those bats will be all over that device when returning to the roost site. A good education on bat return behavior is learned when watching bat responses to exclusion devices in the early morning hours.They will show you the good and bad of any device.

If you cover the wire mesh you will greatly improve the exiting efficiency of the device by creating an easy draft point for them to follow and recognize. When you have open air exposed devices such at that the exiting bats get confused as to what to do,( particularly vented areas with alot of air flow and a large exiting area,) and which way to follow to exit as the air flow has not changed for them.Cover your wire framing with duct tape or some plastic bag material.Drafting is something many dont really understand when it comes to bat work.

Covering the entire vent with the appropriate cut size of cardboard/luan with an exit hole or holes cut then attach your devices to the cut out areas. Now a draft is created allowing the bats to find your exit point quickly and easily reducing back up and confustion.This is something you will learn over time if you watch enough bat exiting behavior responding to the old netting techniques and wire type funnel devices. Just a tip I have learned over the last 27 years.

This drafting or light limiting method works on squirrels in vents and animals ( ghogs, skunks or coon ) living under unaccessable decks that find the lighted area left open for an exclusion device by closing off other points of light entering by stapling cardboard around the perimeter or other such light limiting material.Animals are drawn to the light and air flow instinctively developing a natural funnel effect.
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#3165160 - 05/19/12 07:20 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: trapper4hire]
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Originally Posted By: trapper4hire
.... As with all my posts I'm not saying MY WAY is the best, I'm just dispalyimg tools or methods that work for me in certain situations. but thank you for the compliment on craftsmanship. This tool works great for dormers and separated facia. and it wont get destroyed in the back of my truck like a plasti tube.....

Agreed, different methods for differing situations. Below are a few links to a number of different bat exclusion devices. There are some excellent ideas and useful information in them.
http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthrea...tml#Post2086323
http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthrea...tml#Post2097599
http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2109739/Ridge_Vents_and_bats.html#Post2109739
http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/214028/Tip_of_the_Month.html#Post214028
http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthrea...tml#Post1995872
http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2606027/Small_Bat_job.html#Post2606027
http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2685796/Out_they_go.html#Post2685796
http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthrea...tml#Post3061699
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#3165240 - 05/19/12 08:35 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: LAtrapper]
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Here are a few of mine.






The one coming thru the side of the fascia on the dormer is kinda weird for sure. Cut hole with a holesaw. cut an exact fit plug to go back in the hole when done, glued in with gorilla glue, painted and replaced gutter that covered the area although it looked good as new anyway.

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#3165313 - 05/19/12 09:36 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: trapper4hire]
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I never understood the reason for the plastic or mesh over a slick tube that was going straight down, seems like you could get a bat caught in it pretty easy.

Barehunter , whats up with the wooden ladder ??


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#3165322 - 05/19/12 09:42 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: Barehunter]
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I think they dont get back in because they are stupid. They follow air current and will work around the top of the funnel and not crawl down to the actual entry to the tube. If you wrap it creating the air current at the end of the funnel they will crawl back up the wire funnel.
I have never used a wire one like that but I believe it will work fine.
I usually make vents from pvc but don't put the horizontal crawl like Barehunter. I think the long crawl complicates the exit but I am sure it works. I am enterested in that wood ladder with wheels. Is that a home made chicken ladder device?
I like the professional look of the bat tubes but can't make myself pay for just the look when other things works as well.I use a lot of caulk tubes like Robb showed. I have professionaled them up by wrapping them with aluminum metal tape then making several cuts in the attachment end and bending them out for screwing, foaming or taping to the building.
I'm like the bat not smart enough to post pictures so you will have to visualize to wrapped tube. It looks good and is pliable for all kinds of mounting situations and cheap enough for one time use if you need to cut to fit and throw away.
To the original post good work and I see that as a very workable mountable crafted tool.
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#3165323 - 05/19/12 09:44 PM Re: BAT EXCLUISION PICS [Re: trapper4hire]
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Yeah, what's the deal with the mesh?

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