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Re: When Positive Sets Ain't Positive [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #3141907
04/30/12 06:41 PM
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Im not sure about the other guys, but I have only tried it on female coons with pups. It is pretty successfull as long as she isnt a big old bruiser, with young that are not mobile.

Re: When Positive Sets Ain't Positive [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #3141982
04/30/12 07:43 PM
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Can not use it here without a pest control licence, but it makes a terrible trap lure. wink

Re: When Positive Sets Ain't Positive [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #3142204
04/30/12 09:58 PM
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This is a good one ,worked all day in the rain ,end up pulling something in my back , so get the call chimney coon , so now it's getting dark ,I climb way up this chimney with my loaded comstock with the nose cone on it , finally some how get that thing in there and it fires so start over , not a good trap for that kind of mission . So then after they just got done telling me there dog has been barking at the fire place all day , I grab my chimney poles and open the flue and there's no coon in the chimney , I go thought you said your dog has been barking at the fire place all day , they go well yesterday he was , what the flip people. What a crap day , that's why I charge for the first animal in my service call


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Re: When Positive Sets Ain't Positive [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #3142261
04/30/12 10:39 PM
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So reading hindsight, Pesky, you could maybe change your procedures when you arrive to a chimney job. Maybe check from the inside and see if shes inside before you take a ladder down. As close to dark as it is, and a raccoon being a mostly nocturnal animal, could be that you just missed her.

Re: When Positive Sets Ain't Positive [Re: bob pake] #3142264
04/30/12 10:40 PM
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Actually I think the vanish would be an excellent lure for male raccoons and females outside the birthing season. I believe coyote gland would be useful to make the safety of the young questionable. In my opinion coyote gland would only work to move nursing or pregnant coons.


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Re: When Positive Sets Ain't Positive [Re: bob pake] #3142271
04/30/12 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted By: bob pake
A lot of comments are about how effective vanish will be. I suspect that it is not likely to work with male raccoons.Will coyote gland lure work with male raccoons or is it another product for female with young ?

thanks Bob


A lot of coons are caught each year by coyote trappers who use coyote gland lure at their sets. I dont think it is much of a detterent. I personally use Boars Delight to evict female raccoons from confinement situations. A confinement situation being down a chimney, under a deck etc. I've had very little success using it in an open attic. She ussually just moves them to different place in the attic. But in confinement situations I have 95+% success. I actually used some on a hollow tree today, mom and kits in a hollow tree (just out of reach) in a busy courtyard (too busy for normal trapping procedure). Ive never heard of anyone using it for male raccoons.

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Re: When Positive Sets Ain't Positive [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #3142278
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Originally Posted By: trapper4hire


A lot of coons are caught each year by coyote trappers who use coyote gland lure at their sets. I dont think it is much of a detterent. I've had very little success using it in an open attic.


whistle whistle Some have a much better % with it than your blackies blend stuff. There is a right way and a wrong way to apply it .

Re: When Positive Sets Ain't Positive [Re: bushytail] #3142294
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Originally Posted By: bushytail
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A lot of coons are caught each year by coyote trappers who use coyote gland lure at their sets. I dont think it is much of a detterent. I've had very little success using it in an open attic.


whistle whistle Some have a much better % with it than your blackies blend stuff. There is a right way and a wrong way to apply it .


For a female raccoon with kits I see no reason why it wouldnt work. Ive just always had good luck with "My" way. For clarification so I know how to use it properly if I'm in a situation where I need to try something new, what is the RIGHT versus WRONG way to apply this product?

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Re: When Positive Sets Ain't Positive [Re: Mike Flick] #3142313
04/30/12 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted By: Mike Flick
So reading hindsight, Pesky, you could maybe change your procedures when you arrive to a chimney job. Maybe check from the inside and see if shes inside before you take a ladder down. As close to dark as it is, and a raccoon being a mostly nocturnal animal, could be that you just missed her.
No it's a him he just didn't spend the day there today that's all . I new that when they said there dog was fine with the fire place , ya I should have checked the chimney first before i got out the big ladder . But my back is killing me , think its a nerve i must of twisted the wrong way or something . I was trying to save steps . And with them telling me the dog barked all day I figured he was in there . The trap is still in place ,I'll just go back in the mourning and cap the chimney . I was kinda forced into charging for the first animal and service call all rolled into one thing , when I added a new county to my adds I didn't know that every single pestcontrol company did animals out there . All I seen was a leader add open and two animal control company's in the book , I thought I'm going to make a killing not . When the add came out and I started getting all these calls but hardly any jobs I started calling around and found the problem ,the bug guys charge the service call and it comes with the first animal all in one , these pestcontrol company's will only come out and set a cage trap and that it , that's there answer for every animal problem , it seemed wierd at first but now it's normal and I love it , I get all my money at the start of the job it makes things simple I guess , if I do catch more than one I just bill them for it .if there needing repairs I charge them at the start , this way I don't have to meet them to get payed or wait for the mail .


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