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Re: Free Inspections are killing me [Re: ProFox] #3075580
03/15/12 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted By: profoxhunter
I got a call a month ago from a Realtor who demanded a free inspection for a mouse job. She didn't go into too much detail, she simply said she wanted to find the best out there, and she needed an expert with mice. Lucky for me I do free inspections anyway. I sold the job for $15,000.00. Like I said before, you holyer than thow ADC guys who think your the best thing to happen to ADC since the cage trap can keep your measly inspection fees. I'm gonna go and count my paper!
Holy smokes how many mice do you remove for that kinda coin


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Re: Free Inspections are killing me [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #3075595
03/15/12 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted By: Paul Winkelmann
Okay, I guess I got confused on the original question. When I hear the word "inspection", I immediately think of bat calls. Since we deduct the price of the bat inspection from the total cost, inspection price is not all that important. As far as other animals and pests are concerned, I would not drive across the street without a service call. And we don't even start the job until the service call is paid. If you don't get the service call, the chances are real good that you won't get anything. And please don't tell me that you will take business away by not charging a service call; you will be out of business in a year. Gas here is 4 bucks a gallon and we use up a gallon every 10 to 12 miles. You do the math.
that's how I see it . You should be able to give your trapping fees right over the phone , why would you drive out to there house then tell them , if it's a exclusion then yes you got to see it first , if your doing things right people should just call and say I got your number from so and so when can you come out and not even ask how much , if your worried about competing by how much your service call is or if its free ,you best stay were at and don't move in my area , company's come and go around here , I looked on yp.com today there's 63 company's with adds for animal removal In my area .im sure there planning on making the big bucks . And will jockey around the service call , it's not going to help . Just worry about getting what jobs you do get done right solve the problem ,


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Re: Free Inspections are killing me [Re: Ron Daranger] #3075665
03/15/12 02:00 AM
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The mouse job was a full clean out of the attic insulation. Seal up from the inside out including the foundation and of course the Mice renoved. Over 3500 sq ft home.


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Re: Free Inspections are killing me [Re: Ron Daranger] #3075719
03/15/12 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted By: Peskycritter
You should be able to give your trapping fees right over the phone , why would you drive out to there house then tell them , if it's a exclusion then yes you got to see it first...


Yep that's the way I look at it, but some guys don't want to do one without getting the other so to them the trapping and exclusion is all one price.

At least that's the impression I'm getting.

Re: Free Inspections are killing me [Re: Ron Daranger] #3075827
03/15/12 08:35 AM
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People are smart. If you roll the service call into an exclusion, they know that the exclusion quote will be that much higher. If they want you, then they will pay.

Re: Free Inspections are killing me [Re: ] #3076089
03/15/12 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted By: DaveK
People are smart. If you roll the service call into an exclusion, they know that the exclusion quote will be that much higher. If they want you, then they will pay.
Hey Dave do you know anybody I can trust to send the attic clean outs to


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Re: Free Inspections are killing me [Re: Ron Daranger] #3076156
03/15/12 12:50 PM
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Let me guess. How about Kugler?

Re: Free Inspections are killing me [Re: Ron Daranger] #3076223
03/15/12 01:48 PM
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Pesky & Paul - thanks. We are a squeaky clean operation. We do attic restorations, except summer. We have both the 18HP vac and the insulation blower (plus backup equipment).

Re: Free Inspections are killing me [Re: Ron Daranger] #3076348
03/15/12 03:25 PM
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Well get me some cards , people ask all the time if I know anybody ,but I'm not going to recommend anybody if I don't know they operate , not sure if you do coyote and beaver maybe you could send them to me if you don't , if you do know big deal I still need someone


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Re: Free Inspections are killing me [Re: Ron Daranger] #3076436
03/15/12 04:45 PM
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Well, isn't this just great? Dave will be making money doing attic restorations and Pesky will be doing Dave's coyotes and beavers and I'll still be sitting here giving out tips for free.

Re: Free Inspections are killing me [Re: Ron Daranger] #3076509
03/15/12 05:51 PM
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Ok, Paul...I see your point about trapperman. When can I expect PJ to sign up? Lol

Pesky, I have already made commitments to others in these service areas. However, I will keep you in mind in case something changes as the season progresss. I do appreciate the idea of swapping jobs that are not in our area of expertise...

Re: Free Inspections are killing me [Re: Ron Daranger] #3079782
03/17/12 11:41 PM
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Ditto what Blackdog, RF Wildlife, Jonesie and Wink say. I especially like what Jonesie said: "If people do not want to pay me, I do not want to work for them."
This is business, people! You charge for your professional inspection/diagnosis/consultation and written bid! We ain't selling siding.
I am this area's only ACP and CWCP. I have seen and heard about the free inspections that the PCO's give for wildlife control. They are obviously not sending a qualified technician who is prepared to start the work right then. They are sending a salesman. Do you want a doctor to give you (qualified, objective) medical advice, or a salesman whose pay depends on him selling his services? I explain to my prospective customers that we charge for our inspections so that we can know we will be paid for our time and can do a complete and thorough job without being concerned that I'm losing $$$ for that time. I'd like to get the work, but my pay doesn't rely on me selling the job (and I'm a pretty good salesman). My fees are for professional consultations and services.
BTW, in the last 1.5 years, three WCO's have gone out of business in this area; two were nationwide companies. Coincidence or not?

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Re: Free Inspections are killing me [Re: Ron Daranger] #3083362
03/20/12 04:32 PM
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On residential calls, I charge no inspection fee, because I have everything I need on hand in the truck and I start the job when I inspect. Commercial business calls I do a 75$ inspection, unless it's a huge job and I know I want it. Like a 250 acre gopher and mole job recently, I put a fair amount of meeting and site inspection time into getting the job for free, however it paid off. Also picked up another 65 acre commercial mole and gopher job this week. Charged no inspection on this either.

Re: Free Inspections are killing me [Re: Ron Daranger] #3083374
03/20/12 04:44 PM
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It sounds to me like fishmax2 is happy. That's kind of what we all are aiming for, ain't it?

Re: Free Inspections are killing me [Re: Ron Daranger] #3083589
03/20/12 07:31 PM
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Paul, are you retired? smile

Re: Free Inspections are killing me [Re: Ron Daranger] #3083854
03/20/12 09:13 PM
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I cant believe what I saw yesterday. Now the POLICE department is doing wildlife removal in the city of Madison. I saw the car with wildlife removal unit wrote on it. I realy gotta get out of this town!

Re: Free Inspections are killing me [Re: Ron Daranger] #3083873
03/20/12 09:19 PM
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You sure that wasnt Mike Flicks car ?


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Re: Free Inspections are killing me [Re: 1st RiverRat] #3083880
03/20/12 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted By: 1st RiverRat
You sure that wasnt Mike Flicks car ?


Yep, That was Flick..


Just ask your mommy...
Re: Free Inspections are killing me [Re: Ron Daranger] #3083902
03/20/12 09:29 PM
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Dave, if that means tired again, yeah, that's me. I have a couple of old customers that request me and one that I've been doing forever. If we get overly busy and are afraid that we might lose a customer if they don't get immediate attention, the boss will send me out. I'm the guy in charge of purchasing, vehicle service appointments, and fixing stuff that the other guys break. That last one is twelve hours a day right there.

Ron, the wildlife removal unit is for breaking up drug and underage drinking parties. There's a lot of that going around in Madison.

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Re: Free Inspections are killing me [Re: Ron Daranger] #3084184
03/20/12 11:26 PM
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No, it was a black and white police car with wildlife removal all over it. and it had bat and raccoon removal on it too.

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