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#2858169 - 11/29/11 06:06 PM Re: wolverine set question [Re: Family Trapper]
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Registered: 12/08/08
Loc: Kelowna BC Canada
Originally Posted By: Family Trapper
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I have had good luck holding conibear both 110 and 339 with the nail method. I use finish nails for 110 and larger sized head on for 330.
Nail 4 nails across two and two at hard angle spread out in such a way that the conbiear when squeezed onto them will be tight. You can see them in the picture.



I like to put branches over the trap to dissuade from jumping over. Go dry branches for marten. Less likely to fill with snow and collapse.


That set works very well using three roofing nails also. The three nails seems to make the trap just as stable if not more so.



Or no nails, held by a green bough underneath through the spring eyes. Only problem is the trap may not swing free of the pole one a marten is caught. But works in a pinch.

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#2858836 - 11/29/11 09:58 PM Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243]
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Registered: 12/31/08
Loc: Yukon
243 your right, my snare is anchored to the smaller pole. Just put the smaller pole a little higher on the tree than the one the wolverine will walk on. I use 3/32 X 19 but use just enough for the loop, then have # 9 wire crimped to my snare. Holds the snare where ever you need it. A wire stiffener will do the same thing. Would post pictures but they are under copyright for the moment.

Like W17 I like the Belisle, but for wolverine if I were buying new would go for the largest diameter trap I could. I have seen them shy away from 330s to many times.... thats why I like snares.
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#2858890 - 11/29/11 10:38 PM Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243]
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Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Homer, Alaska
Nice photos Ron. The other thing I forgot to mention is that you can also put an extra nail on the backside of the rear of the trap so that when the coni goes off the rear bar will hit the nail and push the coni forward a lot harder. Making for a deeper catch.
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#2858980 - 11/30/11 12:16 AM Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243]
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Registered: 12/26/10
Loc: British Columbia, Canada
So you would go for the sauvageau 2001-11 or the 2001-12 yukon254? i like the striker bar on the sauvageau traps but i also like the way the safety is on the belisle. im not sure about LDL but i have read that alot of people like the LDL or the rudy trap but i was thinking of the three i mention the belisle or the sauvageau traps or the LDL. FT wouldnt you want to catch on the neck of a wolverine, lynx or any animal with the coni and not further onto the body? just thought that was the spot to hit.

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#2858985 - 11/30/11 12:32 AM Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243]
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Registered: 12/31/08
Loc: Yukon
243 I love the safeties on the Belisle too. I would go with the Sauvageu 2001-12 just because of its larger opening. I wouldnt hesitate to use the Belisle though they are good traps. I have never caught a wolverine other than the neck. Not saying it couldnt happen, I just never have. I have had wolverine survive the strike a 330 though, a few times.

After trying a lot of different ways, I now put the trigger on the bottom in wolverine sets. A friend uses the 330 in a mike crate set, and takes the trigger off. He sets it up so there is a wire to the bait. This ensures the wolverine has its head in the trap properly.
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#2858994 - 11/30/11 12:45 AM Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243]
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Registered: 12/26/10
Loc: British Columbia, Canada
maybe ill buy like half and half 6 belisle and 6 sauvageau 2001-12 if i can do that then i will do that because i do really like the sauvageau traps and also i really like how the safetys are on the belisle traps it would give me more confidence that i will be alot more safer with them like that. How does your friend do with the bait wired to the trap so that it the wolverine have to be in right is it alot more successful catch rate without the triggers or about the same?

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#2859322 - 11/30/11 09:36 AM Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243]
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Registered: 12/31/08
Loc: Yukon
He gets fewer refusals with them. You just never know how a wolverine will react to the crate set. I have taken a lot of wolverine in them, and do set a lot of them, because when you prebait the crates they are very fast to set. I have seen wolverine walk right into them, and others wont go near them. Here is a picture of my pole set. This wolverine jumped through the loop and was caught around the waist. It was obvious it hadnt fought much.
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#2859425 - 11/30/11 10:47 AM Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243]
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Registered: 12/26/10
Loc: British Columbia, Canada
O ok I see what you mean with the smaller pole higher I don't know why but I was thinking you meant put it vertical but I see how it works now. Nice setup there and looks like a nice wolverine. Thanks for all the help Yukon254.

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#2859744 - 11/30/11 02:45 PM Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243]
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trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Homer, Alaska
I don't own any belisle mostly bridger 330 or similar. The gap in them when closed does not expire a neck caught marten. I suppose it is the same way with a wolverine. Caught like this you will have a lot less fighting going on. I alway set my triggers wide as well to keep the marten out of them. Allow for them to get deeper as well.


Now I would prefer belisle but since I used mostly for beaver that is what I bought. Under the water it don't make a difference. In fact my buddy had some and we tried and the way the safeties were set up on them they were actually a pain to set on the pole like I do.

Heck I have held beaver by the foot in my dukes. And they are a lot less expensive.



Yukon what is the smallest diameter tree you will use for the main cross pole you put the trap on?


Edited by Family Trapper (11/30/11 02:46 PM)
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#2860309 - 11/30/11 07:30 PM Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243]
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Registered: 12/26/10
Loc: British Columbia, Canada
question about the duke traps the place i buy my traps from they had some 280s so i bought some cuz i really need more traps so i bought two and my hands turned black from the grease on it do i need to boil the traps first before i use them? If I boil them do i use baking soda just like the snares. I dont any was or stuff like that I dont think the place has that stuff.

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#2860416 - 11/30/11 08:16 PM Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243]
Family Trapper Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Homer, Alaska
Depending on what your trapping yes and no. Regardless you can remove most of it by just rubbing it off with a rag.
For beaver don't worry about it. Just rub what you can get. You can boil them also. If you can get some powdered lye it makes a great trap cleaner.
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#2860461 - 11/30/11 08:32 PM Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243]
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Registered: 12/26/10
Loc: British Columbia, Canada
i will be trapping wolverine and if a lynx would get caught but mainly wolverine. would i still need to boil the trap?

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#2860495 - 11/30/11 08:42 PM Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243]
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"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"

Registered: 03/17/07
Loc: McGrath, AK
It wouldn't hurt but it isn't necessary. Just wipe it off as best you can
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#2860498 - 11/30/11 08:43 PM Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243]
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trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Homer, Alaska
I would say it wouldn't be a bad idea. If it were me I would for wolverine. Some will mind some won't. After the season let them rust up well and dye them.
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#2860836 - 11/30/11 11:07 PM Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243]
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Registered: 11/26/08
Loc: wasilla,alaska
Give me some advice on my set looking at it now am not real impressed with it,after I made it I was,thinking I should of made it easier to walk up?
1/2 a beaver with some Hiawatha Valley on it
They are my poles from last year had a bucket on it,set it after he came thru,this year I decided to do it early incase he comes back thru
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#2860840 - 11/30/11 11:11 PM Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243]
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"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"

Registered: 03/17/07
Loc: McGrath, AK
Hmmmm what's going to stop him from going up the pole and around the trap ? Or up the back side of the tree? Maybe I just can't see it well enough in the picture.
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#2860855 - 11/30/11 11:25 PM Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243]
frozen okie Offline
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Registered: 11/26/08
Loc: wasilla,alaska
MMMM dont know,thats why I posted it,dont think he can go around trap thou but maybe,but can go up back side......now am gonna worry about it untill I get back up there and fix it,may put a 650 or snare behind tree.
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#2860868 - 11/30/11 11:40 PM Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243]
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"AMY SUE"

Registered: 12/22/06
Loc: Gnome, Alaska
Belisle and no others. This right here made me a believer, and will pay for any additional cost over the dukes for any future purposes as well:



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#2860873 - 11/30/11 11:49 PM Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243]
frozen okie Offline
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Registered: 11/26/08
Loc: wasilla,alaska
is that both front feet?
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#2860882 - 11/30/11 11:58 PM Re: wolverine set question [Re: Trapper_243]
Trapper_243 Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/26/10
Loc: British Columbia, Canada
this is a set that i am going to try out. i only made one of these boxes the other on in the picture was to small for the 280 so i am going to use it for a 220 trap. I thought that this might work to and just as good because its what i use for marten before we started getting lynx. just thought id post what id be trying as well as a leaning pole with a trap and leaning pole with a snare if i can get it to work. Anyone ever try this for a wolverine i guess there would be but i havent seen any pictures put up of this type of set up and i thought it would work. The box is 14 inches long, and the hieght is 10 inches and the width is 12 inches.

this picture here is the first lynx i caught here and it is all stretched and ready to be sent out once i start getting more hoping i can make one of the earlier sales for the first time always been on either the last or second to last sale.

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