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#2843481 - 11/21/11 06:18 PM Muskrats - rats in farm ponds
k. miller Offline
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Registered: 01/04/07
Loc: Greensburg, KS 3 blocks from t...
headed east for a four check coon/rat line.... i have one dozen 11os and some ought jumps for rats... need some ideas for open pond rat trapping with the jump traps... will have runs covered with the conis... no huts or feed beds so set footholds on... open water ponds

anybody ever just drive a 4' piece of rebar and wrap no. 9 wire around it and leave enough for the little trap to set on right under the waters edge and then just wire some corn or apple to the rebar????

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#2843566 - 11/21/11 06:45 PM Re: rats in farm ponds [Re: k. miller]
greenyswatter Offline
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Registered: 09/14/10
Loc: SE Minnesota
muskrat floats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Perfect situation for them, can be make in 10 minutes with some scrap lumber! Look in the archives
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#2843590 - 11/21/11 06:53 PM Re: rats in farm ponds [Re: k. miller]
Mantei Offline
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Registered: 01/13/10
Loc: Saskatchewan, Canada
Or simply slick some mud up on the bank and set your trap in front of it, stake in deep water.
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#2843600 - 11/21/11 06:55 PM Re: rats in farm ponds [Re: k. miller]
motrapper#ll Offline
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Registered: 10/19/08
Loc: missouri
not sure what the regs are there but if the rats have huts thats a good place
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#2843745 - 11/21/11 07:34 PM Re: rats in farm ponds [Re: k. miller]
k. miller Offline
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Registered: 01/04/07
Loc: Greensburg, KS 3 blocks from t...
no huts mo'trapper

just farm ponds with runs in the dam.... wish i had more 110s but no reason to have them in the desert LOL
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#2843797 - 11/21/11 07:47 PM Re: rats in farm ponds [Re: k. miller]
motrapper#ll Offline
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Registered: 10/19/08
Loc: missouri
more than likely the rats are eating roots along the bank or grasses set them spots with a 1 1/2 coil or 11 some that will drown em quick and hold the blundering coon if he happens by
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#2843923 - 11/21/11 08:34 PM Re: rats in farm ponds [Re: k. miller]
furgotten Offline
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Registered: 10/20/11
Loc: pennsylvania-union county
ya can mock up a feedbed. kick in a flat spot for your foot trap attach to drowners; pull up some grass wash off the rots pile em in front of traps-attractors anise or carrot oil or your favorit rooty tooty rat lure.
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#2843966 - 11/21/11 08:53 PM Re: rats in farm ponds [Re: k. miller]
RockyinOP Offline
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Registered: 12/26/07
Loc: Kansas
I've had good luck with platform sets, limited success with floats.

The muskrats around here tunnel into the bank to make their dens which is why there aren't any huts; the dens will have 2 or 3 runs coming from them with one being the main run. if you can identify the main run and put a colony trap on that run you can catch 2 or 3 at a time.

setting the approaches to feeding areas can be good too.
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#2843998 - 11/21/11 09:05 PM Re: rats in farm ponds [Re: furgotten]
Riverman- Offline
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Registered: 02/28/09
Loc: MN, & nc
Originally Posted By: furgotten
ya can mock up a feedbed. kick in a flat spot for your foot trap attach to drowners; pull up some grass wash off the rots pile em in front of traps-attractors anise or carrot oil or your favorit rooty tooty rat lure.


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#2844001 - 11/21/11 09:07 PM Re: rats in farm ponds [Re: k. miller]
Otis Offline
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Registered: 11/01/10
Loc: Watertown, SD
your rebar/wire set will work well, also a willow branch/wire set is cheaper laugh
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#2844005 - 11/21/11 09:08 PM Re: rats in farm ponds [Re: k. miller]
michael_obrien
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Kirk,

I am not sure if i was you id be building floats for this fall. the post set you speak of seems to work well.

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#2844048 - 11/21/11 09:29 PM Re: rats in farm ponds [Re: k. miller]
Sam Schumaker Offline
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Registered: 11/11/07
Loc: Northeast kansas
I made up some things I call pole sets. I posted pics last year. Basically take a 2 x4 about 3 feet long and make a small shelf about 10 inches below the top to put a trap on. Then put a nail near the top with an ear of corn or slice of apple on it. Staple the trap chain to lower part and just push the pole into the mud far enough the traps just under the water surface. Muskrat gets caught n jumps off and drowns. Works good. I took 12 out of a small farm pond the last two days using these and cobibears in the runs

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#2844132 - 11/21/11 10:20 PM Re: rats in farm ponds [Re: k. miller]
Bismuth Boy Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: Northwest PA
Originally Posted By: k. miller
no huts mo'trapper

just farm ponds with runs in the dam.... wish i had more 110s but no reason to have them in the desert LOL


If you have dens left and run out of 110's, just set a jump up inside the den entrance and wire to deeper water. Their feet are still touching the bottom when they are coming out of the den. I have caught hundreds of 'rats with footholds in dens, long before I ever heard of a Conibear.
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#2844743 - 11/22/11 10:00 AM Re: rats in farm ponds [Re: k. miller]
Slick T Offline
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Registered: 10/26/08
Loc: Central MN
colony traps easy n very effective.

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#2844800 - 11/22/11 10:54 AM Re: rats in farm ponds [Re: Bismuth Boy]
Rat_Pack Offline
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Registered: 01/17/07
Loc: Central New York
Originally Posted By: Bismuth Boy
[quote=k. miller]If you have dens left and run out of 110's, just set a jump up inside the den entrance and wire to deeper water. Their feet are still touching the bottom when they are coming out of the den. I have caught hundreds of 'rats with footholds in dens, long before I ever heard of a Conibear.


Or make a pocket set. Rats love holes. Dig a pocket or kick the bank at the waterline w/ your boot. A little rat lure back in the pocket and place a foothold in front like Bismuth said.

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#2844805 - 11/22/11 10:59 AM Re: rats in farm ponds [Re: greenyswatter]
Calvin Offline
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Registered: 09/12/07
Loc: South metro, MN
Originally Posted By: greenyswatter
muskrat floats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Perfect situation for them, can be make in 10 minutes with some scrap lumber! Look in the archives


Don't go all crazy now. Floats don't work everywhere. Not all rats are SD rats. Some won't climb onto a float to save their lives. They won't here...and I/ve caught plenty of rats off floats.

Pockets if you have the bank for it will take most rats most places.
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#2844998 - 11/22/11 01:00 PM Re: rats in farm ponds [Re: Calvin]
aprophet Offline
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Registered: 11/26/08
Loc: Portsmouth Va.
Originally Posted By: Calvin
Originally Posted By: greenyswatter
muskrat floats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Perfect situation for them, can be make in 10 minutes with some scrap lumber! Look in the archives


Don't go all crazy now. Floats don't work everywhere. Not all rats are SD rats. Some won't climb onto a float to save their lives. They won't here...and I/ve caught plenty of rats off floats.

Pockets if you have the bank for it will take most rats most places.


the first rat you catch with a coni take and rub his butt all over your float that and their turds are pretty good lure
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#2845046 - 11/22/11 01:27 PM Re: rats in farm ponds [Re: k. miller]
furgotten Offline
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Registered: 10/20/11
Loc: pennsylvania-union county
Oh now I get it them floats is butt wipers-lol
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#2845066 - 11/22/11 01:37 PM Re: rats in farm ponds [Re: k. miller]
Cletis Richards Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: 10714 Apple road Carthage,Mo6...
This is a good example....Clay caught several hundred rats last season....this is an example of the platform

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#2845072 - 11/22/11 01:38 PM Re: rats in farm ponds [Re: k. miller]
Sam Schumaker Offline
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Registered: 11/11/07
Loc: Northeast kansas
Thats pretty much what i use

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