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#2811607 - 11/04/11 10:37 AM Re: marten traps [Re: braggadoe]
Dirt Offline
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Registered: 12/01/10
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Loc: Armpit, ak
Originally Posted By: braggadoe
hey guys, i have a bait question?

i have to heli into my line and weight is allways a problem. i would use only beaver but i just can't carry enough in. so i use a alot of bird carcasses, and raspberry jam. i'll get some beaver once i get out there and use marten meat once i get rolling. i've tried that pellet crab/prawn bait but it didn't seem to work unless i mixed it with jam, it smelled good to me, but wasn't the answer. is there anything else that works great and is light/doesn't take up much space?


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I know you mentioned bird carcasses so this may not be useful. This is what I use.





These are pieces of spruce grouse pre-wired ( excluding the breast meat ). Around 15 per bag and it looks like around .65 Kg per bag. If not too many thaws I can continue to use all season and move them around the line as a I pull sections and set up new sections of the line.
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#2811631 - 11/04/11 11:06 AM Re: marten traps [Re: akntrpr]
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testing testing 123 123
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#2811635 - 11/04/11 11:08 AM Re: marten traps [Re: akntrpr]
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Mr. White17 there seems to be a glitch in the 100 post area?
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#2811706 - 11/04/11 12:08 PM Re: marten traps [Re: akntrpr]
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Loc: McGrath, AK
456 456

Looks OK to me
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#2811719 - 11/04/11 12:18 PM Re: marten traps [Re: akntrpr]
Dirt Offline
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When I submitted that bait post above it said it was there, but when I clicked on the " marten traps" thread nothing was displayed just your post in front of it. I went to my posts and it was listed and I clicked on it and nothing was displayed except your previous post. When I did the testing post it came up. It was listed as reply 99.


Edited by Dirt (11/04/11 12:19 PM)
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#2811734 - 11/04/11 12:27 PM Re: marten traps [Re: akntrpr]
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Registered: 12/23/06
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Loc: Homer, Alaska
I have pretty much done what Dirt is showing. I can get about a doz baits out of a grouse. Slightly tainted is good. Dirt I thought maybe you had on a heating pad there. ;0)
So I scored last night. A local duck hunter I encouraged to give me a call when he had carcasses called me last night. The wind was blowing and the birds were flying off the ocean to their hunting area. I got about 70 breasted mallards. Replenish my Wings!!
So I have not used ducks before. What are trappers experience using Duck carcasses for Lynx and Marten.


Edited by Family Trapper (11/04/11 12:43 PM)
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#2811739 - 11/04/11 12:31 PM Re: marten traps [Re: akntrpr]
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FT, In my experience they are better than grouse
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#2811752 - 11/04/11 12:45 PM Re: marten traps [Re: akntrpr]
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Loc: Homer, Alaska
Curious to try some. I would imagine with the oil they would would smell better in the winter. Martenpine have you tainted them for bait or use fresh?
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#2811759 - 11/04/11 12:49 PM Re: marten traps [Re: akntrpr]
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yes, I have tainted them first but I think you are correct about the oil smelling better in winter even if not tainted. I also have taken the fat drippings off when I roast them and used it as a base for lure with castor and skunk.
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#2811766 - 11/04/11 12:52 PM Re: marten traps [Re: Dirt]
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"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"

Registered: 03/17/07
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Loc: McGrath, AK
Originally Posted By: Dirt
When I submitted that bait post above it said it was there, but when I clicked on the " marten traps" thread nothing was displayed just your post in front of it. I went to my posts and it was listed and I clicked on it and nothing was displayed except your previous post. When I did the testing post it came up. It was listed as reply 99.


Every once in a while something like that happens. A few times I have been taken to a page 2 on a thread only to find there is nothing there. It doesn't last long and may be part of the software that accommodates different member settings on how the page is displayed. Just a guess.

It could also be that someone else posted at the same time as you and then deleted that post, thus changing the counter.
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#2811772 - 11/04/11 12:58 PM Re: marten traps [Re: Family Trapper]
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Registered: 11/26/08
Posts: 814
Loc: wasilla,alaska
Originally Posted By: Family Trapper
I have pretty much done what Dirt is showing. I can get about a doz baits out of a grouse. Slightly tainted is good. Dirt I thought maybe you had on a heating pad there. ;0)
So I scored last night. A local duck hunter I encouraged to give me a call when he had carcasses called me last night. The wind was blowing and the birds were flying off the ocean to their hunting area. I got about 70 breasted mallards. Replenish my Wings!!
So I have not used ducks before. What are trappers experience using Duck carcasses for Lynx and Marten.


I have to ask how you get a doz. baits out of one grouse? Maybe am using to big a chunk cause I get about 6 tops,do you guys just take feathers and tie together?
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#2811782 - 11/04/11 01:09 PM Re: marten traps [Re: akntrpr]
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Loc: Homer, Alaska
Wings 4 baits, (4) two lower legs, (6) 2 thighs, (8) back, (9) neck, (10) head with some neck. (11) Tail (12)
They are small but as long as you have some meat it will taint and smell. If your marten are cooperative it works great. It is what I had my 50 in one check on a few years ago.


Edited by Family Trapper (11/04/11 01:10 PM)
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#2811792 - 11/04/11 01:19 PM Re: marten traps [Re: martenpine]
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Registered: 01/25/07
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Loc: Tok, Alaska
Originally Posted By: martenpine
FT, In my experience they are better than grouse


I agree. The fat on the ducks seems to not freeze solid during the winter and is always putting off an odor. I like to taint, but don't think it matters. Duck is my go to bait for marten and cats.

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#2811794 - 11/04/11 01:20 PM Re: marten traps [Re: akntrpr]
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Registered: 11/26/08
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Loc: wasilla,alaska
Ya I use a bigger chunk,2 wings 2 legs,back,head /neck,and tail
Thanks FT
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#2811830 - 11/04/11 01:41 PM Re: marten traps [Re: akntrpr]
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 2087
Loc: Homer, Alaska
Curious to give them a try. We have a lot of cats in the Homer area now. Going to help my son get a line going here this year.
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#2811833 - 11/04/11 01:41 PM Re: marten traps [Re: akntrpr]
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Registered: 02/25/11
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Loc: alberta
that's good to know, that your getting results with such small bait. it means i can stretch my birds out farther then i've have in the past.

W17, i should pick up some of pauls lure just too support this site, but i make my own. heating up lard/crisco and then adding skunk. is there anything better?


going to wax my boards this season as i've learned from you guys, thanks for all the great info!!

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#2811846 - 11/04/11 01:49 PM Re: marten traps [Re: akntrpr]
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 2087
Loc: Homer, Alaska
I think if you have marten that are at all cooperative you would be surprised at what you can get away with. I have experienced it on my line when they have the urge to bite.
When you start thinking of more sets less time and smaller snowmobile you really have to look at where to cut.
I think my combination would be deadly in a different area from my experience. But as most of you know I have a different subspecies of marten in my area. Martes martesfinicany. ;0)
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#2811891 - 11/04/11 02:15 PM Re: marten traps [Re: braggadoe]
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"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"

Registered: 03/17/07
Posts: 14840
Loc: McGrath, AK
Originally Posted By: braggadoe
that's good to know, that your getting results with such small bait. it means i can stretch my birds out farther then i've have in the past.

W17, i should pick up some of pauls lure just too support this site, but i make my own. heating up lard/crisco and then adding skunk. is there anything better?


going to wax my boards this season as i've learned from you guys, thanks for all the great info!!



I think anything that helps get their attention is good. They are not too sophisticated or choosy....normally. That Crisco must get pretty hard. Might want to add some glycerine.
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#2811897 - 11/04/11 02:19 PM Re: marten traps [Re: akntrpr]
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Registered: 02/25/11
Posts: 10
Loc: alberta
FT, what's your preferred lure for those "rocket surgeon" marten in your area? pm me if it's top secret.....we live alongways apart eh!

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#2811942 - 11/04/11 02:58 PM Re: marten traps [Re: akntrpr]
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 2087
Loc: Homer, Alaska
How do I say this. I was given a good tip and asked not to share. So I will honor this. What I can say is it is basically a carrier for skunk. Like the Vaseline guys are using. However it squeezes out.
A thick gel that stays liquid at low temps, no particles to plug the opening, flavored and cheap in comparison to scent.
I think a guy could use a mixture of glycerin and ? to thin and get similiar results.

Best part is to use in this bottle.
16 oz squeeze.
http://www.minntrapprod.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=507_141&products_id=1074


4 oz is good for experimentation scents. It is small. But runs out fast.
http://www.minntrapprod.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=507_141&products_id=1073
NO mess.
Use a limb to open the top. Squeeze out lots and shut. No touch, no mess, a lot of stink for a small price compared to gusto etc.
It has been awesome at bringing marten to my sets. Getting them to commit is my problem.
This has been an absolute saver in ease of use and cost.
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