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#2490534 - 03/08/11 05:11 PM Re: snares buy or build? [Re: AKscott]
AKscott Offline
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Registered: 01/07/07
Posts: 137
Loc: north pole, AK
well i built my first three snares and was wondering if someone could explain how to load a snare for me also do my snares look ok.
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#2490565 - 03/08/11 05:30 PM Re: snares buy or build? [Re: AKscott]
HFT AK Offline
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Registered: 12/26/08
Posts: 419
Loc: Wasilla AK
That looks dang good!
Run the first 6 inches from the fixed end of the loc over a rounded edge. I use the edge of my vise. Practice on some scrap. I normally load them before I put them all togather. I screw them up, alot!

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#2490674 - 03/08/11 06:20 PM Re: snares buy or build? [Re: AKscott]
bctomcat Offline
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Registered: 07/20/09
Posts: 207
Loc: 100 Mile House, BC Can


To load a snare, grab the lock with your left hand and about 7-8 inches of cable with your right hand. Run this portion of cable several times over a small round rod or screwdriver that has been clamped in a vise. Do not apply too much pressure or the snare will become kinked. Practice will teach you how much pressure is needed to provide a round loop that will close quickly when little pressure is applied to the bottom of the loop. Also for better control move the cable over the screwdriver, or whatever, the same direction each time. Do not see saw back an forth.




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#2490929 - 03/08/11 08:17 PM Re: snares buy or build? [Re: AKscott]
AKscott Offline
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Registered: 01/07/07
Posts: 137
Loc: north pole, AK
thanks guys i got the loading down ok now i cant get a perfect loop but pretty close.
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#2491388 - 03/09/11 12:43 AM Re: snares buy or build? [Re: AKscott]
Spek Jones Offline
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Registered: 01/10/09
Posts: 812
Loc: Homer, Alaska
Another way to load is to put on a pair of leather gloves and pull it across your thumb. Make your loop the size you want, start close to the lock, bend the cable across you thumb and pull it through about 1/3 of the loop. One or two passes will do it. Then pull the lock end across the
back of the same thumb for about 1/4 of the loop, (one or two passes) and
you'll have a pretty much perfect circle. You get a feel for it after the first few tries.
When you pull a cable across something, whether it's a broom handle or
your thumb the twist of the cable tends to want to spin the cable as it's pulled through, which will throw an "S" in the loop, so it helps to kind
of roll your thumb with a little wrist action as you push down and away from you. One of them things you get a feel for. After you get it down
though you can load a snare in 3 or 4 seconds and never mess one up.
Only downside is, 4 or 5 doz at a setting is all my thumb is good for.

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#2491389 - 03/09/11 12:48 AM Re: snares buy or build? [Re: AKscott]
HFT AK Offline
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Registered: 12/26/08
Posts: 419
Loc: Wasilla AK
I'll have to give that a shot!

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#2491427 - 03/09/11 02:15 AM Re: snares buy or build? [Re: AKscott]
AKscott Offline
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Registered: 01/07/07
Posts: 137
Loc: north pole, AK
well here is how my loops look on the first dz and i will have to give that a try thanks spek.
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#2491738 - 03/09/11 09:59 AM Re: snares buy or build? [Re: AKscott]
bctomcat Offline
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Registered: 07/20/09
Posts: 207
Loc: 100 Mile House, BC Can
A few more strokes with a little more pressure close to the lock and you will probably attain the round loop.
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#2492368 - 03/09/11 04:53 PM Re: snares buy or build? [Re: AKscott]
AKscott Offline
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Registered: 01/07/07
Posts: 137
Loc: north pole, AK
this is how they look when i loaded them the way spek suggested


Edited by scotty144 (03/09/11 06:18 PM)
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#2492520 - 03/09/11 06:20 PM Re: snares buy or build? [Re: AKscott]
bctomcat Offline
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Registered: 07/20/09
Posts: 207
Loc: 100 Mile House, BC Can
Thats a good loop in my opinion.
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#2492579 - 03/09/11 06:54 PM Re: snares buy or build? [Re: AKscott]
Rally Offline
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Registered: 02/14/09
Posts: 175
Loc: Hill City,Mn.
Scotty,
If you put one more little bend on the loop at the bottom of the lock, so that your stop is not hitting the back of the lock as it hangs, it will make your snare much faster. If the stop is hitting that lock, like yours is now, it transfers any pressure exerted to the cable to the lock and cause it to drag and take more pressure(elongation of the loop)before it snaps shut if loaded.
To load your snare, first pound a 1/4 smooth rod or barnpole spike into a wall at a height so you can walk up and set your chin on it, at a 90 degree angle to the wall. You will be "loading", aproximately 1/3 of the total cable that is in your loop when set. I first put a single stop on the length of cable I intend to use, and do them all at one time to increase production. Then lay that length of cable straight on a table. Then I pick the end of the cable up at the stop and leave the remainder of the cable laying on the table, and form a C shape with it. If the stop end of the cable is just resting in the palm of your hand while you push down gently with that hand, it will cause the length of cable to form to it's manufactured shape or show the direction and amount of "memory" or lay of the cable. When I find the memory direction, I then pinch the cable just a couple inches behind that stop, while still retaining that memory. Then with a pair of needlenosed pliers just behind the stop, I bend the cable OPPOSITE the lay of the cable. I move the pliers down about a 1/4" on the cable and repeat the bending sequence, down another 1/4" and repeat the sequence. When done correctly, it should now have a complete circle or "Cradle" where the lock will be, and the stop end of the cable will just about touch the cable.
Now I take that length of cable to the pin on the wall, and hold the "cradle" in my left hand, while pinching the "cradle" between my left thumb and index finger. The cradle will show the direction of the lay of the cable, and when loading it you are just increasing the amount of memory in that piece of cable.Lay the piece of cable across the pin and control the direction you will be forming to by keeping track of the direction the cradle points. With my right hand I then pinch the cable (approximately 1/3 the length that is going to be in the final diameter, a 36" piece of cable I would shape 12"). I then pull the cable over the pin, starting at my left hand next to the cradle, and continue until I get to my right hand. I pull slightly harder when I first start and ease off as I approach my right hand. It is very important that you not pull too hard especially with 1x19 or 1x7 cables, as over shaping is easy to do and will result in a pigtailed appearance if over shaped, and if you pull too hard you can cause the cable to roll which results in loops that appear "cup shaped" as you look at them from above. You want to just increase the amount of memory in the cable, without causing it to roll, which shapes the side of the cable resulting in the "cup shaped" loops. The reason for the pin being at chin height, is that our arms will naturally pull straight down without to much fore and aft movement at this position. The reason for the small pin is to eliminate the need pull too hard, causing the cable to roll. If after loading, you let go of the cradle with your left hand it should spring to your right hand and form an upside down letter C or horseshoe shape. If you pulled too hard itwill just about come back and touch your right hand. Put a lock on the snare now and see if it gives you the closing and shape you desire. It it is still teardrop shaped you didn't pull hard enough. If it is oval shaped you pulled to hard.Only you will be able to tell what you want and for some critters (like mink and otter) I like the oval shape as it will be much faster than the more open teardrop shape. For larger lumbering, straight legged critters, like wolves or coyotes a more open loop is generally preferred. If you kept your "Cradle" straight while loading your snare will hang nice and straight and your lock will jump shut when the loop is elongated just a couple inches, the smaller and heavier the load the less elongation of the loop required to get it moving.Like mentioned above about the "cradle" and the lock base. It is very important that the hole in the bottom of the lock is not binding and the bottom of the lock should sit in the middle of the cradle, without the stop hitting the lock until the animal pulls it completely closed during it's lunging.
Not all locks are created equal nor lend themselves to smooth closing, some need to be altered some.
For Camlocs, instead of bending a cradle you still put a stop on first and form the C on the bench, which tells you the direction of the lay of the cable. The difference is you bend the cable at the stop at a 90 degree bend at a right angle to the lay of the cable. All that is required is a small "journal" for the levering end of the camloc to pivot on. I also put my camlocs on before shaping to give me something tp hold onto while loading. The camlocs are actually easier to make once you get the hang of it, but if the bend is not at a right angle to the lay of the cable it can also cause some binding while closing. You'll just have to ruin a few to get the hang of it like the rest of us. LOL
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#2492589 - 03/09/11 06:58 PM Re: snares buy or build? [Re: Rally]
Sleepycreek4.5 Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/23/11
Posts: 4
Loc: SE Alaska
Very good. Would one of the mods please put this in the archives?
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