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#2319353 - 12/22/10 11:55 AM Under ice beaver/conibear?
TrapperTy Offline
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Registered: 02/03/07
Posts: 62
Loc: Alaska
Has anybody tried this beaver set? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddh3rynNg7s&feature=player_embedded It looks like an easy way to trap beaver under the ice. I doesn't look like the trap would have very much stability. I prefer snaring for beavers but my sets require a little more work than this set. It looks like you could just auger a few 10 inch holes then drop the trap in.

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#2319381 - 12/22/10 12:18 PM Re: Under ice beaver/conibear? [Re: TrapperTy]
white17 Offline

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"

Registered: 03/17/07
Posts: 14627
Loc: McGrath, AK
Yes I have had some success with that type of set.
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#2319520 - 12/22/10 01:53 PM Re: Under ice beaver/conibear? [Re: white17]
TrapperTy Offline
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Registered: 02/03/07
Posts: 62
Loc: Alaska
Thanks. I was planning to set some beaver lodges this evening and I was looking for conibear type sets. This video was in my email from Trapper Predator Caller. I'll give it a try.

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#2319532 - 12/22/10 02:10 PM Re: Under ice beaver/conibear? [Re: TrapperTy]
white17 Offline

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"

Registered: 03/17/07
Posts: 14627
Loc: McGrath, AK
I also had good luck just attaching a short piece of white PVC to the trigger wires on the 330. Just drill two holes in the pipe, run the wires through, and bend them slightly. That way you don't lose the pipe when the trap fires
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#2320206 - 12/22/10 08:24 PM Re: Under ice beaver/conibear? [Re: white17]
watarrat Offline
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Registered: 10/04/10
Posts: 9
Loc: Lake Iliamna Ak
W17 Is the pvc simulating a bait??

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#2320231 - 12/22/10 08:29 PM Re: Under ice beaver/conibear? [Re: TrapperTy]
white17 Offline

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"

Registered: 03/17/07
Posts: 14627
Loc: McGrath, AK
Yes. Looks like a peeled stick or something edible to them I guess
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#2320255 - 12/22/10 08:37 PM Re: Under ice beaver/conibear? [Re: TrapperTy]
On a Call Offline
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Registered: 01/23/10
Posts: 452
Loc: S/E Mich - N/W Ohio
Caught my first two beaver that way. It does work..not sure about the pvc though. However I am going to try it. Apple, aspen, popular all will work.

Good luck

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#2320275 - 12/22/10 08:45 PM Re: Under ice beaver/conibear? [Re: TrapperTy]
white17 Offline

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"

Registered: 03/17/07
Posts: 14627
Loc: McGrath, AK
Results;

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#2320294 - 12/22/10 08:49 PM Re: Under ice beaver/conibear? [Re: TrapperTy]
watarrat Offline
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Registered: 10/04/10
Posts: 9
Loc: Lake Iliamna Ak
Looks good!! We will be the Iliamna field testers soon,my bride is in the moose hunting mode now. Thanks White!

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#2320327 - 12/22/10 08:58 PM Re: Under ice beaver/conibear? [Re: TrapperTy]
white17 Offline

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"

Registered: 03/17/07
Posts: 14627
Loc: McGrath, AK
You bet! Good luck !


By the way, I don't hang mine the way the video showed it. I just have a piece of cable attached to one spring eye and drop it straight down the hole. I run that cable up to a stick across the hole. Also, I put them a couple feet below the bottom of the ice so they don't freeze in. That guy in the video wasn't working with much ice there.
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#2320360 - 12/22/10 09:12 PM Re: Under ice beaver/conibear? [Re: TrapperTy]
Brandon Yuchasz Offline
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Registered: 12/30/08
Posts: 45
Loc: Western UP of Michigan
Just to add another option to this.

I never liked the idea of the swinging 330 under the ice. Just seemed to have a bigger margin of error to me so I use a straight dead pole through both springs and run it down into the bottom with the trap hanging off the side of it. Then either bait the trigger or the jaw. It works really well for me.

That said I don't doubt the swing trap works I never tried it because in my mind I did not like it.



Edited by Brandon Yuchasz (12/22/10 09:25 PM)

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#2320373 - 12/22/10 09:19 PM Re: Under ice beaver/conibear? [Re: TrapperTy]
white17 Offline

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"

Registered: 03/17/07
Posts: 14627
Loc: McGrath, AK
Yep I've used the pole also. I don't like it though because you have to thread that set trap down on the pole, through the spring eyes. Also, if you are in deep water you have to pull up a long pole and the trap has to go up in the air and it might have a beaver in it. Just awkward and maybe a bit risky IMO. It does seem more stable though the beaver don't seem to mind the swinging trap.

Another thing nice about this set is that you can use old, weak 330's that you wouldn't trust on dry land.
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#2320387 - 12/22/10 09:23 PM Re: Under ice beaver/conibear? [Re: Brandon Yuchasz]
mad_mike Offline
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Registered: 01/01/08
Posts: 171
Loc: Podunk, Alaska
I am also in question about the swinging 330 under the ice. It seems odd to me to not have a trap be that unstable. We go though such efforts to make both legholds and connibear type traps solid in their set position. Am I missing something magical about this type of set?


Edited by mad_mike (12/22/10 09:24 PM)
Edit Reason: Didn't get enoughbook learning

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#2320420 - 12/22/10 09:35 PM Re: Under ice beaver/conibear? [Re: TrapperTy]
white17 Offline

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"

Registered: 03/17/07
Posts: 14627
Loc: McGrath, AK
I don't think so. When you think about, the trap is dead still as the beaver approaches. He grabs the "bait" with either his teeth or feet and it fires. Period. They must be used to pieces of brush in their grub pile moving as they cut off a piece to take home so maybe a bit of movement means nothing to them. As long as it works, it doesn't matter to me whether the trap is solid or not.
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#2320433 - 12/22/10 09:42 PM Re: Under ice beaver/conibear? [Re: TrapperTy]
takotna Offline
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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 1198
Loc: Takotna AK
Yrs ago a buddy and I caught a mess of beaver the way w17 did with one spring and birch branches wadded up and placed on trigger, for some reason it just don't work anymore and anyway I prefer 2 or 3 snares and a bait pole.

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#2320443 - 12/22/10 09:45 PM Re: Under ice beaver/conibear? [Re: TrapperTy]
white17 Offline

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"

Registered: 03/17/07
Posts: 14627
Loc: McGrath, AK
I usually put in two holes. One with snares and one with the coni. Especially when it's really cold.
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#2320458 - 12/22/10 09:54 PM Re: Under ice beaver/conibear? [Re: TrapperTy]
Kusko Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 3768
Loc: Bethel, AK
I didn't watch the whole video, but is it where you wire green sticks to the loose jaw?
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#2320529 - 12/22/10 10:41 PM Re: Under ice beaver/conibear? [Re: TrapperTy]
yukon254 Offline
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Registered: 12/31/08
Posts: 445
Loc: Yukon
I do it like W17 except with a bait stick instead of pvc. works best later in the winter. snares set just under the ice around the feed beds will catch all the beaver you want to skin.
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#2320631 - 12/22/10 11:34 PM Re: Under ice beaver/conibear? [Re: TrapperTy]
Family Trapper Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 2087
Loc: Homer, Alaska
I have caught them although I have not done it extensively. Just wanted to see if it would work. The pvc holds the eye appeal. Baits sticks go gray pretty fast.


Edited by Family Trapper (12/22/10 11:35 PM)
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#2320687 - 12/23/10 12:34 AM Re: Under ice beaver/conibear? [Re: TrapperTy]
madtrapper Offline
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Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 2136
Loc: Ely, Minnesota, coolest small ...
Yes, I have caught beaver this way, I think the thing about the swinging trap is that the beaver does not have a dead pull which can cause rubs on the fur more than a trap that is not anchored solidly.


Edited by madtrapper (12/29/10 10:40 PM)
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