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#2161152 - 09/25/10 09:37 AM Bats- Bat Experts!! How I would fix this one!!!!
Vinke Offline
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Soooooooo if you know ANYTHING about Modular/mobile homes...you understand what the challenges are,,,,,,

How would you do it????.... (Aprx. 1000 bats of 3 or 4 species,,)Bats are everywhere including wall and roof cavities





Wood panel mansard with modified bitumen roll roofing and plywood over original metal decking,,,,,,,,,
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#2161176 - 09/25/10 09:55 AM Re: Bat Experts!! How would you fix this one.....? [Re: Vinke]
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#2161179 - 09/25/10 09:59 AM Re: Bat Experts!! How would you fix this one.....? [Re: Vinke]
BUD25 Offline
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Get a new trailer, They cant afford it.... It would take a lot of time to master that challenge.
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#2161183 - 09/25/10 10:02 AM Re: Bat Experts!! How would you fix this one.....? [Re: BigBob]
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Bud,,,,,,, new trier would cost 80 90 100 g+......... Come onnnnnn How??????????
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#2161252 - 09/25/10 11:17 AM Re: Bat Experts!! How would you fix this one.....? [Re: Vinke]
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seriously? get the silicone out, and start fillin gaps. I would never take a job where I couldnt think I can do it 100% of the way,,, Last night I had to tell a homeowner to buy a new garage door because it was warped, and bats were getting under the topside by the frame.
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#2161314 - 09/25/10 12:17 PM Re: Bat Experts!! How would you fix this one.....? [Re: Vinke]
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I would use bat netting all the way around. Just drape it and let them come out from under it then do the seal up as you remove the netting after the bats are out.or you could do a section at a time.
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#2161408 - 09/25/10 02:25 PM Re: Bat Experts!! How would you fix this one.....? [Re: Vinke]
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Is silicone the magic cure all??? I have listened Podcasts that tell us of 90 to 1 year warranty?????? Isn't there some way you can offer 5????? 10 year????? LIFETIME WARRANTY????.....
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#2161418 - 09/25/10 02:31 PM Re: Bat Experts!! How would you fix this one.....? [Re: Vinke]
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I have seen some silicone with 30 and 50 year warranties. Not to say I'd tell the customer his problem was fixed for the next 50 years. crazy


Edited by Budfish (09/25/10 02:34 PM)
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#2161470 - 09/25/10 03:22 PM Re: Bat Experts!! How would you fix this one.....? [Re: Vinke]
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Maybe you could modify the inside. Remove the drywall or paneling and replace it with plexiglass. Put a sign outside that says "Bat Observation Center" Sell tickets for $25 a pop. Just trying to think outside the box and turn lemons into lemonade...

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#2161525 - 09/25/10 03:55 PM Re: Bat Experts!! How would you fix this one.....? [Re: gopherkiller]
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Originally Posted By: gopherkiller
Maybe you could modify the inside. Remove the drywall or paneling and replace it with plexiglass. Put a sign outside that says "Bat Observation Center" Sell tickets for $25 a pop. Just trying to think outside the box and turn lemons into lemonade...
I'd love some.
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#2161529 - 09/25/10 03:57 PM Re: Bat Experts!! How would you fix this one.....? [Re: Vinke]
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Originally Posted By: Vinke
Is silicone the magic cure all??? I have listened Podcasts that tell us of 90 to 1 year warranty?????? Isn't there some way you can offer 5????? 10 year????? LIFETIME WARRANTY????.....

not always,,,, If you can provide a few more detailed photos I could give more of a definate answer.
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#2161682 - 09/25/10 07:10 PM Re: Bat Experts!! How would you fix this one.....? [Re: Vinke]
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I would not give a warranty for it!
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#2162172 - 09/26/10 09:03 AM Re: Bat Experts!! How would you fix this one.....? [Re: Vinke]
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That picture doesn't really help, but the principles would would be the same for it as any other bat job. Just maybe more work, and yes a warranty would be available for the right price.

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#2162209 - 09/26/10 09:39 AM Re: Bat Experts!! How would you fix this one.....? [Re: nccoyote]
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I would not give a warranty for it!


I offered one,,,,,,,,,, 10 YEAR........ \ whistle

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Maybe you could modify the inside.


I tried to convince "them" to do that on a Nation park job, but because the home was donated by the family of the original owner(or anyone for that matter) The (the NP's) had to maintain the building or it could be reclaimed by the downers..

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If you can provide a few more detailed photos I could give more of a definate answer.


What details would you like to see?,,,,,,Remember the "key" is modular construction..... If you know or have looked at later model "modular" homes in the past,,,,,you can see every detail from this photo,,,



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#2163380 - 09/27/10 06:16 AM Re: Bat Experts!! How would you fix this one.....? [Re: Vinke]
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I would start with taking off the gutters so I could see where they are gitting in on the top, than I would use bat netting or cones on the "active" openings and caulk wire or what ever is appropriate to the rest, this dont look that bad the structure looks like it is in good shape, I dont like doing the homes that need repair.
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#2164662 - 09/27/10 10:34 PM Re: Bat Experts!! How would you fix this one.....? [Re: stan58]
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I would start with taking off the gutters so I could see where they are gitting in on the top


GREAT ANSWER!!!

Day one


Typical are above windows




mansard removal


Opening up the sheet insulation to get at the roll product...Performed on entire structure


Carefully fitting new material


Nice tight seal (notice factory edge)




Sealing the seams,,,,just in case.......


30 pound building paper


supporting the deck for tomarrow
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#2164916 - 09/28/10 07:08 AM Re: Bat Experts!! How would you fix this one.....? [Re: Vinke]
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wouldnt it have been cheaper to get rid of that place and put a new one in? looks like alot of $$$$ to repair an old place. but what do i know? great pictures. thanks for showing us the work.
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#2164926 - 09/28/10 07:17 AM Re: Bat Experts!! How would you fix this one.....? [Re: Vinke]
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good work i use to build them things back in the day looks better then new
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#2164987 - 09/28/10 08:15 AM Re: Bat Experts!! How would you fix this one.....? [Re: Vinke]
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wow. how did you sell that job?
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#2165004 - 09/28/10 08:30 AM Re: Bat Experts!! How would you fix this one.....? [Re: Vinke]
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( I was a $1000 vacuum salesman in the 80's )
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#2165292 - 09/28/10 01:40 PM Re: Bat Experts!! How would you fix this one.....? [Re: Vinke]
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I hate Vacuum cleaner salesman,seems everytime I was out of town trapping one of the 3 wives I've had would buy a new vacuum, once was a kirby another time some water vac and an electrolux,cost me more than all the fur i caught,come to think of it, I hate wives!.....B.....
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#2165414 - 09/28/10 03:39 PM Re: Bat Experts!! How would you fix this one.....? [Re: Vinke]
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Brian, my kind of post. The best vacuum made is the Hoover Windtunnel. My wife has one and so do I. When ever my feminine side pops up, I put on an apron, tie a babushka around my head and vacuum clean. You can get a Hoover on-line for a little over a hundred bucks. Wives are a little more expensive! But then you already know that. Which wife lasted the longest?

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#2165607 - 09/28/10 06:35 PM Re: Bat Experts!! How would you fix this one.....? [Re: Paul Winkelmann]
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Originally Posted By: Paul Winkelmann
.............. Wives are a little more expensive! ........


UUHHHH yup, EX-wives are even MORE expensive.
Some people collect coins, stamps, old beer cans....me? Oh, I collect ex-wives:)
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#2167034 - 09/29/10 04:36 PM Re: Bat Experts!! How I would fix this one!!!! [Re: Vinke]
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Pointer man, you can have my two ex's grin grin, for your collection.......


Edited by pnwmtnmn (09/29/10 04:36 PM)

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#2167042 - 09/29/10 04:42 PM Re: Bat Experts!! How I would fix this one!!!! [Re: Vinke]
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Vinke, I was going to tell you to strip it down but seems you figured it out already........ smile

Silicone it? shocked
Child, Please! smirk

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#2167114 - 09/29/10 05:30 PM Re: Bat Experts!! How I would fix this one!!!! [Re: LT GREY]
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LT GREY,
I knew better than to bite that initial bait! whistle It didn't have enough muskrat gland in it. wink Overall, an excellent teaching thread.
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#2167806 - 09/30/10 12:54 AM Re: Bat Experts!! How I would fix this one!!!! [Re: LAtrapper]
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day 3...........



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#2167813 - 09/30/10 01:18 AM Re: Bat Experts!! How I would fix this one!!!! [Re: Vinke]
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and bats were getting under the topside by the frame.


fur the frame and ad a seal strip,,,,,,,,its that easy (in a shell bussy voice,,,,,,,,,, whistle

Or as my friend Bob Villa would say......."any more whiskey?"
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#2167955 - 09/30/10 07:27 AM Re: Bat Experts!! How I would fix this one!!!! [Re: Vinke]
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Vinke, you sure do nice work.

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#2168394 - 09/30/10 01:29 PM Re: Bat Experts!! How I would fix this one!!!! [Re: LT GREY]
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Originally Posted By: LT GREY
Vinke, I was going to tell you to strip it down but seems you figured it out already........ smile

Silicone it? shocked
Child, Please! smirk

class all the way.
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#2169147 - 09/30/10 09:18 PM Re: Bat Experts!! How I would fix this one!!!! [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: pnwmtnmn
Pointer man, you can have my two ex's grin grin, for your collection.......


Thanks anyway, but six has never been a good number for me..........
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#2169375 - 10/01/10 04:58 AM Re: Bat Experts!! How I would fix this one!!!! [Re: Vinke]
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@ Vinke....
Nice job man! A man that takes pride in his work.
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#2169594 - 10/01/10 09:44 AM Re: Bat Experts!! How I would fix this one!!!! [Re: Vinke]
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That really did turn out nice. I love cedar shake siding on homes, getting ready to do my eves and one peak in the front with cedar. Not cheap. Vinke nice work.

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#2169848 - 10/01/10 02:07 PM Re: Bat Experts!! How I would fix this one!!!! [Re: Vinke]
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I love cedar shake siding on homes too. ( Just not on mine ) This means at any given moment something is chewing into the building or hatching under the shakes or pulling them off to get at the larvae. Yep, whoever invented cedar shakes was definitely an ADC guy!

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#2172033 - 10/03/10 11:21 AM Re: Bat Experts!! How I would fix this one!!!! [Re: Vinke]
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The proper term for the materials installed is 18" #1 wood SHINGLES,,,,,,,The are not my first chose in building materials,,,,,,

Wood shingle often need to be trimmed to insure proper installation,,
You must determine the moisture content of the material and "gap" the wood accordingly....
The material must be examined for imperfections (bad saw cuts, staining, and cracking ect. ect)
If you don't know how to install the material,,, I is time consuming,,,,



I had "spece'd" the job using a different product,,,but the owner saw a home,,,,,liked the "Look" and asked to have this material installed,,,,,

Chewing in,,,,,, Not on this one,,,,,,,, smile
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#2172537 - 10/03/10 06:55 PM Re: Bat Experts!! How I would fix this one!!!! [Re: Vinke]
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looks really nice.
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#2179337 - 10/07/10 07:48 PM Re: Bat Experts!! How would you fix this one.....? [Re: Vinke]
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Vinke, Tell em the truth!!!!! You just showed them your toenails painted up purty like and they just had to have you do the job.
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