#202120 - 05/12/07 07:23 PM
Live catch mole trap revealed
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 2196
Loc: SW Pa
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 This is a frontal shot compared to two silicone tubes used as a size comparison.  A recent catch female mole taken from my test site.Males can be much bigger and at times fill up the tube and are unable to turn around.  Another shot of the mole. http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/bj123/100_3335.jpgLength of the trap compared to a silicone tube once again for size reference. I have traps that range from 8" to 12" in length.I use a PVC connector to place two traps back to back. I have a separator between the two trap ends. http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/bj123/100_3329.jpgI released the mole back into the run it was captured from. I wonder if they can get trap shy? 
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#202137 - 05/12/07 07:54 PM
Re: Live catch mole trap revealed
[Re: Bob Jameson]
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Registered: 12/28/06
Posts: 792
Loc: Indiana
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From what I've read moles can starve in less than a day, so I run live removals every 8 to 10 hours. On live removal jobs do you charge per visit or per mole?
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#202175 - 05/12/07 08:41 PM
Re: Live catch mole trap revealed
[Re: V3N]
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Registered: 04/09/07
Posts: 14711
Loc: Central Ohio
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Hey Vinke, did you notice that? The first mole trap with a carpeted entrance! Welcome home Moley.  Ha!
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#202329 - 05/13/07 08:37 AM
Re: Live catch mole trap revealed
[Re: Vinke]
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 322
Loc: Menlo Park, California
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Bob, is that just a little gravity operated door that the mole pushes up to get into the trap?
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#202344 - 05/13/07 09:08 AM
Re: Live catch mole trap revealed
[Re: Bob Jameson]
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 322
Loc: Menlo Park, California
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Bob, I suppose the felt is needed as moles seem to be particularly sensitive to walking on wire, or just to foreign objects placed in their tunnels.
I catch lots of moles in DK-1 gopher traps, and in my Gophinator gopher traps, but almost never catch moles in Macabee gopher traps. I think the reason for that is that with the Macabee, the mole has to walk over a lot of wire to get to the trigger, and they're reluctant to do that. With DK-1's or Gophinators, the mole is mostly traveling over dirt to get to the trigger.
I never set gopher traps with the intention of catching moles, but sometimes moles will use pre-existing gopher tunnels.
By the way, can you identify male and female moles on any other basis than size difference? Here where I work in CA, all moles seem to be more or less the same size, and I never even consider whether the moles I catch are male of female. With gophers it's obvious from the males external genitals, but with moles I really can't tell.
Can you tell them apart easily?
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#202416 - 05/13/07 11:17 AM
Re: Live catch mole trap revealed
[Re: Bob Jameson]
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 322
Loc: Menlo Park, California
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Bob, sixteen "quid" for a three-pack. About 10 bucks apiece. See if they'll ship some over to you. I bet they will. Have you ever tried those double barrel "duffus" mole traps made in the UK? I tried them without much luck, but I'm not sure I was placing them right. Some Brits who seem to really know what they're doing swear by those things. Here's the webpage where that live trap is for sale... LINK
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#202604 - 05/13/07 06:23 PM
Re: Live catch mole trap revealed
[Re: SteveAlbano]
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Registered: 04/09/07
Posts: 14711
Loc: Central Ohio
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Steve, Thanks for the info on the UK co. from all us mole trappers who are always looking for different style traps, even if it's only a novelty. Bob has a good design on his live mole trap. not as "pretty" as the UK version but I bet it's ever bit as effective! Maybe trappers like Vinke up in Washinton State who have their hands tied with these laws might get a brake with a trap design like that. I have myself been working on a design that uses a coffee can similar to the "drop box" they use over in the UK to trap rabbits. So far I've only caught one mole and a couple of shrews. Not very successful even I must admit. I have caught a number of moles by hand just by being at the right place at the right time. A small spade and perfect timing, has been all it took to catch one just below the surface. Bob mention of wetting down the soil( mole runs) is something else I've used with some success. It has been fairly dry here and if done right, in the right soil condition, it will work fairly well. Where ever the earthworms go, the moles just seem to follow.
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#203795 - 05/15/07 08:42 AM
Re: Live catch mole trap revealed
[Re: Bob Jameson]
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Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 19
Loc: Durham UK
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hi all , i,m a molecatcher from the uk, i use nothing else but the duffus or half barrel trap to catch moles, i have tried every trap available to us uk trappers and always go back to the half barrel, the plastic livecatch trap in the picture doesn,t work or at lease i cannot catch with it ,all i have ever had was a plugged up trap, the wire live traps seems to be the answer as there is less chance of any odd or forign odors getting on the trap and with the felt and soil all around , it sounds like a winner, i sometimes get requests off customes to livetrap and then release , it is illegal in the uk to release any pest species so the killer trap is the only viable option, the uk is being flooded out with cheap foreign traps at the moment and the quality is rubbish compared to uk made half barrel traps so watch where you get them from if you decide to order from the uk
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#204570 - 05/15/07 10:35 PM
Re: Live catch mole trap revealed
[Re: Bob Jameson]
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Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 2141
Loc: Rodney,Ohio
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Bob,
Wonder instead of spring loading or pinching the area near the door you could solder or wire a few little pieces of wire facing towards the back of the trap to keep them from nosing the door?
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#204600 - 05/16/07 12:35 AM
Re: Live catch mole trap revealed
[Re: SNIPERBBB]
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 322
Loc: Menlo Park, California
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moley, I think I asked you this before, but when you set those duffus traps, do you fill in the mole tunnel with loose dirt, and then push the trap down into that dirt, or is the trap set in air, and then you just filter loose dirt over the top of the trap?
When we set out-of-sights, we basically collapse and fill in a 4 or 5 inch segment of tunnel creating a blockage, and then push the trap down into that blockage.
Is that what you do with the duffus, or does that sheet metal top part of the duffus create a sort of artificial roof to the tunnel, and does the mole travel through that artificial tunnel to get to the trigger?
I like the out-of-sights so much that I really haven't spent much time trying to figure out how to get the duffus traps to work. But I should spend more time on it and really see how properly set duffus traps stack up against properly set out-of-sights.
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