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#1959038 - 04/19/10 09:07 AM Muskrat- Muskrat in pond with swans
tomstrap Offline
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Registered: 12/25/06
Loc: Idaville, Indiana
Got a call about a client having a small muskrat problem in a pond. The problem is, there are no rat dens to be found and the pond has a pr of swans on it.
What would you use to catch the rats and to not catch the swans?
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#1959071 - 04/19/10 09:30 AM Re: Muskrat in pond with swans [Re: tomstrap]
BigBob Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: St. Louis Co, Mo
Cages or colony traps set under water. Look for bank dens/runs.
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#1959129 - 04/19/10 10:13 AM Re: Muskrat in pond with swans [Re: BigBob]
LT GREY Offline
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Registered: 04/09/07
Loc: Central Ohio
Did he just NOT say there were NO DENS TO BE FOUND ?

What good is a colony trap then?

No You best bet is a 'covered float set' with a cage or colony trap on it.

You must be careful with waterfowl with traps, even 110 kill traps.
A 110 can in a bank den under water can still kill a Canada goose!

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#1959177 - 04/19/10 10:44 AM Re: Muskrat in pond with swans [Re: LT GREY]
BigBob Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Loc: St. Louis Co, Mo
I took that to mean no MOUNDS or HUTS.
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#1959182 - 04/19/10 10:47 AM Re: Muskrat in pond with swans [Re: BigBob]
LT GREY Offline
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Registered: 04/09/07
Loc: Central Ohio
Vinke, show us your version....and please don't use a Havajunk...I hate it when you use them and are successful! smile

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#1959213 - 04/19/10 11:02 AM Re: Muskrat in pond with swans [Re: LT GREY]
warrior Offline
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Registered: 01/28/07
Loc: Georgia
Avoid the 110s and bodygrippers. Foot caught geese will beat the snot out of you and swans could only be worse. Don't ask me how I know. LOL
Covered floats or something similar to the floating colony that WCS sells would be possibilities.
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#1959413 - 04/19/10 02:00 PM Re: Muskrat in pond with swans [Re: warrior]
Vinke Offline
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Registered: 12/22/06
Loc: AZ




This one is at A small feed pile......




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#1959614 - 04/19/10 04:52 PM Re: Muskrat in pond with swans [Re: Vinke]
Blackdog Offline
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Registered: 07/31/07
Loc: Wisconsin
I run muskrat maintenance programs on a bunch of subdivision ponds. A couple have pairs of Mutes on them. What i do is, and i've never had a issue yet is. I 4+stake them (creating a barrier)so the swan can't get over the den hole/trap.
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#1959807 - 04/19/10 06:59 PM Re: Muskrat in pond with swans [Re: Blackdog]
Paul Winkelmann Offline
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Registered: 07/23/08
Loc: mequon, wisconsin
You beat me to it Blackdog. I was about to post that I use 120's and longer stakes so I can bring them a slight distance ahead of the trap and cross them. So far so good; been doing it that way for several years and we've got ducks, geese, mutes, and trumpeters to contend with.

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#1959936 - 04/19/10 08:10 PM Re: Muskrat in pond with swans [Re: Paul Winkelmann]
Trapstar Charlie Offline
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Registered: 11/08/07
Loc: newark Ohio
A pond with no runs? hrmm... Where are they coming from?
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#1959960 - 04/19/10 08:25 PM Re: Muskrat in pond with swans [Re: Trapstar Charlie]
Travis Wolford Offline
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Registered: 07/21/09
Loc: Tipton, IN
Warrior, myself and Tom Morelock were trapping beaver one winter and the state fur bearer biologist came down to meet with us to pick up some carcasses for a bobcat study he was doing. That morning he went with us to check traps and I caught a goose in a number 4 longspring, the goose was still very much alive and I wasnt crazy about taking it out so Bruce asked me what I was going to do? I have learned to think on my feet to get out of stuff so I said "im gonna shoot it in the head and pitch it in the weeds and reset the trap", he looked me in the eye and said "thats illegal Travis" so I replied "I aint gonna tell nobody about it!". Before I could say I was joking he rushed over and took it out for me! I love it when a plan comes together. Tom, I have a couple of floating cages but they are set right now, if it can wait a few days you are more than welcome to use them just let me know.
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#1960044 - 04/19/10 08:59 PM Re: Muskrat in pond with swans [Re: Travis Wolford]
BUD25 Offline
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Registered: 12/26/08
Loc: southern Minnesota
there you go acting big and tough Travis... lol good to meet you! My wife thinks your girl Katie is sweet! smile
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#1960305 - 04/20/10 12:02 AM Re: Muskrat in pond with swans [Re: BUD25]
tomstrap Offline
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Registered: 12/25/06
Loc: Idaville, Indiana
Travis give me a call.
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#1960561 - 04/20/10 09:28 AM Re: Muskrat in pond with swans [Re: tomstrap]
LT GREY Offline
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Registered: 04/09/07
Loc: Central Ohio
The pond will have dens, just not accessable.
A den 5 ft down in murky water is almost as bad as done.
I do like the float set idea.

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