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#1708153 - 01/04/10 08:42 PM Re: Footholds for beaver (pics) [Re: Beartrapperbeef]
michael_obrien
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Thanks Randy.

this is the one thing I really struggle with. I can pile beaver up using conis, but I can't get any consistency with legholds-

I think I try to set them too deep- When you are setting in one inch of water you are after a front foot, correct?

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#1708214 - 01/04/10 08:53 PM Re: Footholds for beaver (pics) [Re: ]
goldy Offline
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Registered: 12/31/07
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Loc: minnesota
Originally Posted By: michael_obrien


I think I try to set them too deep- When you are setting in one inch of water you are after a front foot, correct?
I prefer the front foot, but setting in an inch of water doesn't guarantee a front foot catch. I'm guessing it's about 60-70% front foot catches with the way I set them.

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#1708258 - 01/04/10 09:02 PM Re: Footholds for beaver (pics) [Re: Beartrapperbeef]
goldy Offline
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Originally Posted By: Beartrapperbeef
this is a great post looks just like how i do my front foot catches. now what about back foot catches? how deep do guys run? and how far from the bank? and maybe offset? i had horrible luck trying for the back foot this year...
If I have to target a hind foot, I set just like the above picture but with the guide sticks farther out in at least 5" of water, about 18-20" away from where I expect the beaver to hit it's chest on the bottom near the waters edge. The theory is that when it hits it's chest, the beaver drops it's rear legs down and into the trap.

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#1708261 - 01/04/10 09:02 PM Re: Footholds for beaver (pics) [Re: goldy]
cathryn Offline
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Registered: 12/22/06
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Loc: West Virginia,age 42
this post should be archived,imo.
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#1708486 - 01/04/10 09:50 PM Re: Footholds for beaver (pics) [Re: cathryn]
Dave Plueger Online   content
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Registered: 01/10/07
Posts: 2652
Loc: Iowa (where the tall corn grow...
Wonderful and informative post Goldy. I almost swore I was looking at one of my sets. The only difference being the mound. I haven't bothered to make a mound in a few years now and haven't noticed any difference in my catch. I just make a quick swipe up the bank with my glove and place my lure............ Some like their lure to touch the water and flow down stream or out over the surface. IMO this is some what of a mistake. I want that beaver coming in to one specific location, not searching up and down the bank for the source...........Regarding chain drowners, I went to welded link and the lock slides down very smooth and fast. I do leave just a little slack in the chain which helps the lock bind up better on the chain.

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#1708500 - 01/04/10 09:53 PM Re: Footholds for beaver (pics) [Re: Dave Plueger]
Tim Caven Offline
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Registered: 01/20/07
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Loc: Western Minnesota
Very nice Goldy, great job. Is it spring yet?
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#1708506 - 01/04/10 09:55 PM Re: Footholds for beaver (pics) [Re: Tim Caven]
goldy Offline
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Loc: minnesota
Originally Posted By: Tim Caven
Very nice Goldy, great job. Is it spring yet?
Not yet Tim, but I'm already getting pumped.

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#1708524 - 01/04/10 10:03 PM Re: Footholds for beaver (pics) [Re: goldy]
goldy Offline
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Registered: 12/31/07
Posts: 4525
Loc: minnesota
I agree Dave, the lure is by far the most important attractant. If I know theft may be a problem, I've even gone without using mud at all to avoid attracting thieves. It would be interesting to see what would happen with no lure and just a lot of mud though. Someday I'll try it.

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#1708639 - 01/04/10 10:54 PM Re: Footholds for beaver (pics) [Re: goldy]
Mike Kelly Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1869
Loc: Beaver Bayou MN
Great post Randy!!!

BTW...It cant be spring yet as I have not done any lake trout fishing yet!
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#1708650 - 01/04/10 10:58 PM Re: Footholds for beaver (pics) [Re: Mike Kelly]
pjl Offline
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Registered: 01/24/09
Posts: 83
Loc: wisconsin/manitoba
I'm not even a beaver trapper, and found it VERY interesting. Its posts like this that makes this site GREAT!!

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#1708658 - 01/04/10 11:03 PM Re: Footholds for beaver (pics) [Re: goldy]
Beartrapperbeef Offline
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Registered: 12/17/07
Posts: 717
Loc: Western Maine..... 23
Originally Posted By: goldy
Originally Posted By: Beartrapperbeef
this is a great post looks just like how i do my front foot catches. now what about back foot catches? how deep do guys run? and how far from the bank? and maybe offset? i had horrible luck trying for the back foot this year...
If I have to target a hind foot, I set just like the above picture but with the guide sticks farther out in at least 5" of water, about 18-20" away from where I expect the beaver to hit it's chest on the bottom near the waters edge. The theory is that when it hits it's chest, the beaver drops it's rear legs down and into the trap.


so a beaver is not real shy to blocking sets? when i make my foot hold sets i never have used much for guides, guess this info will help me greatly!!!

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#1708682 - 01/04/10 11:15 PM Re: Footholds for beaver (pics) [Re: Beartrapperbeef]
goldy Offline
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Registered: 12/31/07
Posts: 4525
Loc: minnesota
In my experience, the vast majority aren't at all afraid of blocking or guiding. There is always the exception though.

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#1708685 - 01/04/10 11:16 PM Re: Footholds for beaver (pics) [Re: Mike Kelly]
goldy Offline
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Registered: 12/31/07
Posts: 4525
Loc: minnesota
Originally Posted By: Marbleyes
Great post Randy!!!

BTW...It cant be spring yet as I have not done any lake trout fishing yet!
It would have been a little chilly out there today Mike. Hopefully this weather will change in February and March.

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#1709039 - 01/05/10 07:27 AM Re: Footholds for beaver (pics) [Re: Tim Bauer]
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 8823
Loc: Lake Mille Lacs , MN
Originally Posted By: Tim Bauer
I've never had one hang up on the chain, but I do only use 750's. You're probably right on the smaller traps. I've watched beaver get caught and they down right fly down the rods and chain!


The only time I have had trouble with chains is an area with a lot of vegetation. When the water level has risen out of the channel and perhaps into a hay field or pasture, chains will sometimes foul quicker.
While I prefer rods , there are just times the structure below the water is more conducive for chains.

Excellent Post Goldy !
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#1709189 - 01/05/10 09:12 AM Re: Footholds for beaver (pics) [Re: 2poor]
MnMan Offline
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Registered: 03/04/07
Posts: 2918
Loc: Central MN, sort of old
Great post...the extra effort you put forth to illustrate this set will help a lot of people. I'm thinkin' spring too but probably will have a long wait.
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#1709316 - 01/05/10 10:22 AM Re: Footholds for beaver (pics) [Re: MnMan]
Bocephus Offline
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Registered: 11/04/09
Posts: 134
Loc: Northwest mississippi
Great post, one question, you said you like to set your traps in an inch of water except TS-85's. I use Ts-85's and #5 lonsprings. Should I not set these that shallow? Also, I bought some 3/8 ths rebar yesterday do build some drowners. Have you tried 3/8ths or should I get some 1/2 inch. Again, Great post. Also, I snared my first beaver yesterday, Caught a bunch in coni's but success with snares has not come as easy. I am fired up about snaring now and plan to really step it up. Thanks, Adam
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#1709330 - 01/05/10 10:30 AM Re: Footholds for beaver (pics) [Re: Bocephus]
goldy Offline
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Registered: 12/31/07
Posts: 4525
Loc: minnesota
I have not done well with 85's set shallow. It seems the levers and jaws are so big that they can throw the front shoulders/legs out of the trap. Set deep though, they seem to be fine.
3/8 rebar gets bent up too easily with much use. It soon looks like a straightened pretzel and bends easier ever time. Plus, on hard bottom set locations, you need the extra stiffness of 1/2" to get the end into the bottom far enough.

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#1709341 - 01/05/10 10:39 AM Re: Footholds for beaver (pics) [Re: goldy]
Bocephus Offline
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Registered: 11/04/09
Posts: 134
Loc: Northwest mississippi
Thanks, I'll pick up some 1/2 inch.
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#1709346 - 01/05/10 10:42 AM Re: Footholds for beaver (pics) [Re: goldy]
Kre
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This is a great post!

However, do you have problems w/ coon and otter getting in your traps setting that shallow? I think I've read in the past that you feel like you may miss beaver setting deep for a back foot.

But, it's been my experience that setting shallow, even with heavy pan tension, will increase you catches of coon and otter (sometimes even muskrats if pan tension isn't right).

I sometimes have no choice but to set shallow and the biggest problem I have is coon...generally they're pegged by either both front or both back feet.

I prefer to set deep for a back foot catch...8-10 inches.

But, whatever floats your boat. smile

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#1709363 - 01/05/10 10:48 AM Re: Footholds for beaver (pics) [Re: goldy]
330-Trapper Offline
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Registered: 12/31/06
Posts: 5720
Loc: Minnesota
Nice post goldy, and I like Chain also... but the smoother chain and a Conduit' lock instead...

I need to weld up some of those Rods this winter...
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