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This woman is RUTHLESS enough!! #1603689
11/19/09 08:10 AM
11/19/09 08:10 AM
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I have debated this woman several times. She is ruthless enough to be a serious threat to anybody who is involved in any facet of animal use. She is also one of the most gullible & devious ARA folk that I have dealt with. She believes a lot of ARA propaganda & garbage put out by ALF and she thinks they can solve animal rights issues through violence and deems negotiations as a waste of time..

Minnesota Daily (U. of MN)
University police increased security for threatening blog post
University Professor Dick Bianco's house is under surveillance after
an animal right's blogger posted a message some considered to be
threatening.
By Robert Downs and Stacey Battenberg
Published: 11/10/2009
http://www.mndaily.com/2009/11/11/university-police-increased-security-threatening-blog-post

In some circles, Dick Bianco isn’t very popular.

Bianco, an associate professor of surgery at the University of
Minnesota , uses animals for medical testing and has emerged as a
voice of a million-dollar ad campaign from the Foundation for
Biomedical Research.

Now, Bianco’s house is under police surveillance after an animal
rights blogger named Camille Marino responded to the ad campaign by
posting Bianco’s name and photograph with a message that some consider
threatening.

“We cannot be complacent,” Marino said in the post. “… We should not
be surprised when the unconscionable violence inflicted upon animals
is justifiably visited upon their tormentors.”


University police began increasing patrols this week near Bianco’s
home after the “vague” threats were made, University police Deputy
Chief Chuck Miner said.

Marino , founder of negotiationisover.com , described FBR’s ad
campaign as an attempt to “garner support for animal abuse.”

The campaign is aimed at cities that reported to not have a definitive
opinion about animal research. It is active in 11 markets, including
the Twin Cities, Los Angeles and Boston — all of which are “on the
fence” about animal research, FBR President Frankie Trull said .

“We are not reaching out to those who are definitively opposed,” Trull
said. “We are not going to change their mind.”

Animal rights advocates have a history of activism in California and
Minnesota, Trull said.

“I don’t want to paint everyone this way, but there are those within
the [animal rights] movement that are very zealous and feel that if
you don’t agree with them they are going to be aggressively hostile,”
Trull said.


Marino said she did not try to stir up hostile actions with her post.

“My intent is simply to provide the other side of the story,” she
said. “It is not a threat.”

Marino said she published Bianco’s name and photograph because he is a
public figure who is “publicly advocating animal abuse.”

“I’m simply putting a name and a face together with the movement,” she said.

Marino noted that she was not surprised to hear her article was
interpreted as a threat. When asked why she published the article
anyway, Marino replied “If my speech is unpopular, does that mean that
my free speech should be inhibited simply because it may be
manipulated or twisted?”

This is not the first time Bianco has dealt with animal rights
activists. Student organizations from Compassionate Action for Animals
to the Student Organization for Animal Rights (SOAR) have been well
acquainted with Bianco through his work as assistant vice president of
the Academic Health Center.

In 1999, Bianco filed a grievance against SOAR for disorderly conduct
and disruptive demonstrations when a member suspended himself from the
top of Moos Tower in a small tent for six days near a hanging banner
that read, “Stop Animal Torture.”

In 2000, SOAR, along with a group from Los Angeles, offered $10,000 to
anybody who could “end alleged animal cruelty at the University.”

“It’s outrageous,” Bianco then told The Minnesota Daily. “It’s like
putting a bounty on the head of our researchers and the people who are
trying to find a cure for diseases.”

University police have taken extra precautions over the years since
Elliot Hall and the Lions Research Building were burglarized in 1999
by animal rights activists, Miner said.

The University has since increased physical security of research
buildings and installed more alarms and closed circuit television, he
said.

Ben Kutschied , the student advisor of Compassionate Action for
Animals, said live animal testing, called vivisection, is never
justifiable for medical advancements.

“I have a hard time considering [vivisection] worthwhile no matter how
many human lives we may have saved using these kinds of unethical
methods,” he said.

Despite his beliefs, Kutschied said resorting to disrespectful or
violent means are never worth pursuing and tend to cause more harm
than good.

“Are any people who are in support of animal experimentation really
going to change their minds because you’ve just insulted somebody and
threatened somebody? Probably not,” he said. “If anything else,
they’ve decided now that they’re not going to listen to any animal
rights activists ever again.”

Bianco will appear in a Discovery Channel documentary on animal
surgery in the next few months, he said. He is not afraid for his
safety and will continue to be a supportive voice for the use of
animals in surgery, he said.

“If we could use computers to do this, or other simulations, we
would,” Bianco said. “In fact, we do. The vast majority of what we do
does not involve live animals. Under law, we must test medical devices
on animals before they can be used for humans.”






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Re: This woman is RUTHLESS enough!! [Re: Mira Trapper] #1603715
11/19/09 08:44 AM
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One well placed round wink


"Don't go around saying the world owes you a living; the world owes you nothing; it was here first. "
--Mark Twain.

Re: This woman is RUTHLESS enough!! [Re: Rye] #1603739
11/19/09 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted By: Rye
One well placed round wink



I don't think that is the solution Rye. wink However, I suspect having her work with a compassionate medical professional as an observer working in a cancer ward for young children getting those new age medical procedures founded in Animal research would go a long way into teaching Camille REAl COMPASSION.


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Re: This woman is RUTHLESS enough!! [Re: Mira Trapper] #1603778
11/19/09 09:48 AM
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I'm not really sure the ARA folks truely understand compassion. For many I think being involved in some sort of activist group is something that they feel gives their life meaning. Even if beyond any doubt you could show them their error and the good that can come from anything from an animal would be rejected. To agknowledge any benefit to to animal testing, raising animals for food, milk, or fur, hunting, or trapping, would mean that everything they had worked for would be for not and would be to agknowledge their time as worthless. These people will never be convinced, although others might. To me, these AR people only serve as examples to others how nutty their cause is. The more people see the AR crowd for what they are, they'll simply fade away in time. In the mean time, we just need to keep educating people to offer balanced opinions. Logic will always win over emotion.



I just find the pic amusing now... lol
Re: This woman is RUTHLESS enough!! [Re: jimbo_4] #1603818
11/19/09 10:20 AM
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In my experience, the extreme ARA folks HATE humans far more than they love animals.

Re: This woman is RUTHLESS enough!! [Re: DaveP] #1603824
11/19/09 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted By: DaveP
In my experience, the extreme ARA folks HATE humans far more than they love animals.




If ARA loved animals they would not seek the extinction of domesticated animals and they would appreciate the humane kills of wildlife facing over population long term suffering deaths of starvation ,contagion & other natural deaths. The ARA are in love with themselves and NOBODY else.


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11/19/09 11:56 AM
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Most of these people have nothing going for them in their life. They don't have an understanding of life and death in a natural aspect. If you are raised without any explanation to life, this is appealing to them giving meaning to THEIR meger meaningless life. Its pathetic and sad how these people think.


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