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#1550300 - 10/21/09 03:41 PM More whining from Animal Liberation about the law
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These ARA reporters are such whiners. They claim they will partake in illegal activity for the animals and when they or one one of the suckers believing in their rhetoric gets caught they complain about the law and how the vandals or terrorists rights are being trampled. They are such whining hypocrites and cry babies..




Activist subpoenaed in '04 University of IA attack (Blog)‏

Sent: October 20, 2009 4:27:50 PM



The ALF attack on the U. of IA mentioned below, refers to the lab
break-in in Nov. of 2004, where unknown activists released over 400
animals and destroyed over 40 computers.
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Green is the New Red (Blog)
Activist to Iowa Grand Jury: “We will not be intimidated. We will not
cooperate.”
by Will Potter
Oct 19th, 2009
http://www.greenisthenewred a professional,whiners attempt at ignoring why laws are made to protect private property and not to protect the destroyers, of private property.




Carrie Feldman, a 20-year-old woman from Minneapolis, has been
subpoenaed to a federal grand jury in Iowa in what appears to be yet
another attempt to harass and intimidate political activists. She
faces up to a year in jail if held in contempt for refusing to
cooperate with the grand jury.

As you can see in Feldman’s grand jury subpoena, the government
provides few details about what is actually being investigated. That’s
no accident: grand juries, by design, are secretive and conducted
outside of public scrutiny in a legal void where basic Fifth and First
Amendment rights do not apply. [Here is a handy booklet on grand
juries with much more information.] If activists refuse to participate
in the political witch-hunt, they can face serious jail time. Jordan
Halliday has done exactly that with a Utah Grand Jury, and he is
facing federal criminal contempt charges.

There’s a very good chance the grand jury is investigating a 2004
Animal Liberation Front raid at the University of Iowa (video of the
raid is embedded here), for a few reasons. It was a very high profile
crime at the time, and both the university and the FBI have indicated
it is a top priority. Also, at the preliminary hearing by the grand
jury, a witness asked a question that Feldman says related to that
investigation.

After that raid, the University of Iowa announced that its new, $11.2
million animal experimentation facility would be underground. As an
anonymous activist wrote on the Twin Cities Animal Liberation media page:

“Like the torture of animals, grand juries, too, are only at their
most effective when done as intended, in secret.”

If the new underground lab at the University of Iowa is intended to
deter both legal and illegal animal rights activity, that’s not going
to happen. When I sent around a news article about that on Twitter a
while back, an above ground activist responded in a way that I think
reflects the mentality of many people in the animal rights and
environmental movements: “They’re building their labs underground now?
I guess we’ll just have to get shovels.”

And if this new grand jury is intended to harass and intimidate
political activists… well, I think they picked the wrong activist and
the wrong community to target. Carrie Feldman is active with EWOK
(Earth Warriors are OK), which has been active on local Green Scare
issues. She also works with the Coldsnap Legal Collective and the RNC
8 support committee, experience that is clearly reflected in her
statement to the grand jury:

“First of all, I would like to state, unequivocally and most certainly
for the record, that I have no intention of testifying before this
grand jury. Based on information from the prosecutor indicating that I
may be a target of this investigation, I am invoking my Fifth
Amendment right against self-incrimination. But beyond that, I am
refusing to cooperate based on a sincere belief that to do so would
run counter to my deeply held convictions and values.

Grand juries were originally created to prevent arbitrary indictments,
but are now used as a tool of the prosecution to gather information.
Grand juries undercut basic rights supposedly granted in the
Constitution by denying access to counsel and coercing testimony. They
are now, and have been for some time, used to investigate and
intimidate those who would express dissent.

This is only effective when we are complicit, when we are frightened,
when we are divided. Today my voice may waver, as I stand alone in
this room. But I know I speak with the voice of every one of my
friends, loved ones, and comrades when I say this: We will not be
intimidated. We will not cooperate. I have nothing more to say to
you.”

Carrie Feldman’s support website:
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#1550525 - 10/21/09 05:49 PM Re: More whining from Animal Liberation about the law [Re: Mira Trapper]
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Originally Posted By: Mira Trapper
[color:#000099] grand juries, by design, are secretive and conducted
outside of public scrutiny

There’s a very good chance the grand jury is investigating a 2004
Animal Liberation Front raid at the University of Iowa



Quote:
Like the torture of animals, grand juries, too, are only at their
most effective when done as intended, in secret.”


That's quite a statement coming from a bunch of cowards that sneak around at night like the common terrorists they are. Bunch of hypocrites!
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#1550532 - 10/21/09 05:52 PM Re: More whining from Animal Liberation about the law [Re: Ole Hawkeye]
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Also, at the preliminary hearing by the grand
jury, a witness asked a question that Feldman says related to that investigation.


And I'll bet that is a lie, too, because I don't believe the accused is present at a Grand Jury proceeding and, as the article stated, the proceedings are secret, so how does she know what questions were asked?
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#1551101 - 10/21/09 09:28 PM Re: More whining from Animal Liberation about the law [Re: Ole Hawkeye]
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The author of this letter Will Potter,hasn't a clue about how stupid he looks to folks that actually understand the law. His rhetoric is so disingenuous that a ten year old child would understand the deception.
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#1551784 - 10/22/09 11:59 AM Re: More whining from Animal Liberation about the law [Re: Mira Trapper]
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In Bloomington Indiana, near the IU campus,there is, or was, a coffee shop where all the ALFs, ELFs, and wackos used to hang out.
I don't remember any mention of anyone attacking THEM. Just as I have never seen where any of these "Activists" has had their own home targeted.
That is a clear example of who is who. If roles were reversed, those places would burn.
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#1553177 - 10/23/09 06:09 AM Re: More whining from Animal Liberation about the law [Re: V3N]
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Originally Posted By: V3N
In Bloomington Indiana, near the IU campus,there is, or was, a coffee shop where all the ALFs, ELFs, and wackos used to hang out.
I don't remember any mention of anyone attacking THEM. Just as I have never seen where any of these "Activists" has had their own home targeted.
That is a clear example of who is who. If roles were reversed, those places would burn.




The whining they do about getting caught & the jail sentences they receive is highly indicative of just how self indulgent & self servingly ignorant they are. I imagine they would be screaming for a hanging if their homes were attacked by animal users . In fact they make that obvious when the Law Raids their homes and digs through the evidence that proves them to be guilty of vandalism & terrorism. I really do find the author Will Potter & ALF types to be repulsively ignorant & arrogant fascists & cry babies What worries me is that the Courts & Government are NOT making sure the sentence matches the crime and the vandals should be MADE to pay back every last penny for the damages they cause plus large settlements to the people they have attacked for duress & extra strain they faced in the attack. If the Courts & Government applied that rule of Law the whiners would be more apt to avoid physical damage knowing their predecessors had ruined their lives and would never stop paying back their victims till they died.


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