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#107809 - 02/24/07 10:33 PM Re: wolf.. traps snaring and otherwise. [Re: SEwaterboy]
otterman Offline

trapper

Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 2318
Loc: SW Alaska
ok wolf guys I had a bummer today I have a set two traps one in a trail one at the scent post about 40 feet apart. after waiting all season the wolves came through and I missed them. I have never been able to see previous catches approaches as they came befor the snow and got caught, However this time was different all 6 wolves approched the set some went on the trap side of the little spruce trees some went on the other side. trap side wolf stepped on the jaws and didnt scratch or nothing another went down the trail and stepped on the jaws of the trail set so two complete misses man I was bummed Dumb me never checked the trap placement closely after the last snow. What has me scratching my head is why the wolf on the other side of the tree peed and scratched the area up this is three lone spruce trees on a bluff above a creek the surrounding area is wide open tundra. IS it just the alpha and thats the side he chose did they smell something ? I dont think so cause they hit the jaws and never broke stride just kept walking. In the past I orrignally found the set while moose hunting and set the trap on the side with the wolf crap on it. Should I set a trap on the opoosite side of the trees? and leave the others in place that would put 4-6 traps in a 60 foot area what you all think? Dang wolves anyway
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#107899 - 02/25/07 02:41 AM Re: wolf.. traps snaring and otherwise. [Re: otterman]
SEwaterboy Offline
trapper

Registered: 02/08/07
Posts: 124
Loc: SE Alaska
Wish I had the answer to that one...and many others of my own. They will make you pull hair out I swear. A couple days ago I had seven sets to check. Nothing doing in the first three. Had time to kill waiting for the tide to access the others so I figured I would sit and howl and drink coffee. I thought at the very least I could keep the old vocal cords in shape, but maybe something would answer and I could go in on them, or better yet something would pop out. Anyway, it had been snowing hard, for a few hours, about six inches had built up below the tide line, but it stopped and suddenly became crystal clear with a nice blue sky. I thought "man, these are great conditions to see something." This lasted about a half hour and began snowing pie plates again. I was wet and cold and though I'm usually patient while calling I decided I would try and make it to the next set. I jumped in the skiff and slowly putted my way across the bay. It was only about 400 yards,but visibilty was maybe fifty. I hit the beach by the set and started walking to the timber. I cut a smokin fresh set of tracks in the mud heading to the set. Then they cut through the snow and they were in the intertidal snow, but there was a small skim on top of those. It really didn't register with me that those tracks were less than a half hour old. I saw that they were snowed in and my thinking was well I either got him or he's long gone. The tracks headed straight down the beach and past my set anyway. I went up and checked it out and then made a large swath in the timber to see if a wolvy was in the area. Big drainage and nice creek, had potential. Didn't see anything. So I start walking back to the skiff and I figure I'll go check out the tracks one more time since it's the only thing of interest I'd seen all day. I took one turn and caught something out of the corner of my eye. At first I thought it was an otter playing around at the water line. Then a monsterous wolf busted out of a snow bank headed full tilt away from me. The movement I'd seen was him busting through some ice and piling into a snow bank in his haist to vacate. Gun in the skiff. I knew he was long gone, but I went up to check out the story. Plain as day in the snow, like reading a book, he was coming to see what my howlin was about, hit the beach and started cruising towards my set, he passes my set about the same time it starts snowing hard and I jump in the skiff. At this point he was up wind. I hit the beach and walk into my set and do my search for wolverine sign about the same time he gets downwind and smells my set. He turns around and starts coming in. He's sixty yards away when I stumble out with my head to the ground looking for his tracks! He had probably a good thirty seconds of free escape time before I caught that movement. As I was running to the skiff in a vain attempt to get my gun I howled over my shoulder. It was a pathetic sound, but he did stop for a second and looked back. If I had packed my rifle with me I would have had a nice 150-200 yard shot. Heck I was even standing next to a huge rock/perfect rest if I wanted it. Bummed me out. Timing is everything.
I was on a little dry spell there-frustrations abounding-and now all of a sudden I'm kind of on fire(for me anyway) Picked up my sixth in the last eight days today. But still had two more passes, this time it was obviously my fault. I didn't pay attention to the creek level falling off with all this cold and snow and half my #9 was sticking out for all the world to see. Heck you guys probably saw it from where you are. Man, that drives me crazy. I've waited three weeks for this pack to come through and I let this happen. And on another pee set, the big snow fall just pushed em right off the trap, just like always happens around here. Snow, rain, freeze, rain, snow, freeze, freeze, freeze, rain, rain, snow, sun, rain, rain, freeze, snow. You get the idea. I feel your pain brotha.


Edited by SEwaterboy (02/25/07 03:00 AM)

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#114745 - 02/28/07 06:40 PM Re: wolf.. traps snaring and otherwise. [Re: SEwaterboy]
Hupurest Offline
"climatologist"

Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 10251
Loc: Anchoragua
how long of a chain does anybody run off their wolf traps, #9's and mb750's??? I was thinking of 10 feet per trap? to much? would 5 feet work?
oh, and there will be a drag on there also.
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#114826 - 02/28/07 07:13 PM Re: wolf.. traps snaring and otherwise. [Re: Hupurest]
bearbait Offline
trapper

Registered: 01/03/07
Posts: 1885
Loc: North Pole Alaska
I think the 9s come with 10'. Are you going to use steel grapples or logs?
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#115176 - 02/28/07 09:06 PM Re: wolf.. traps snaring and otherwise. [Re: bearbait]
Moosecaller Offline
trapper

Registered: 02/06/07
Posts: 115
Loc: Fairbanks, Alaska
I use 10 feet of chain and steel grappling hooks. The area I trap is fairly brushy. You wouldn't want to set these on a river.

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#115221 - 02/28/07 09:33 PM Re: wolf.. traps snaring and otherwise. [Re: Moosecaller]
SEwaterboy Offline
trapper

Registered: 02/08/07
Posts: 124
Loc: SE Alaska
I use about ten feet as well. I started going a little bit longer on my newer setups due to the fact that making water sets like I do sometimes the water won't be deep enough close to the set to cover my drag if I'm using a boom chain and that little bit may get me there. Of course this doesn't matter if I'm using a large rock. The chains are way faster and more handy but some sets call for the rock. Not sure what length would be considered too short, but ten feet seems to come up quite often when using a drag.

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#146699 - 03/21/07 07:26 PM Re: wolf.. traps snaring and otherwise. [Re: SEwaterboy]
fishermann222 Offline

"OX"

Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 5144
Loc: Bethel, Alaska
From Wayne Hall

Woklf pee-post set. Charred post for the attractor/post. This set was just re-made when I took the photo because I have to remove the #9 when I go by so I don't catch a dog. The trail is my DOG trail. Substitute a moose or caribou femur or a shed antler for the post and it becomes a combo wolf/wolverine set..which is what I do use most of time.


Wolf snare in trail
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#148289 - 03/22/07 03:28 PM Re: wolf.. traps snaring and otherwise. [Re: fishermann222]
otterman Offline

trapper

Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 2318
Loc: SW Alaska
Posted by Takotna
I packed a burnt log about 2ft long to an open area and just tossed it a few feet from the trail to see what would happen, a couple trips later a couple wolves followed the trail and one male peed on it so set a trap in the footsteps and had one a few weeks later. Think I'll try that again. You don't want none of the charcoal dust over the traps or they may be showning when the sun comes out.
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#148811 - 03/22/07 08:38 PM Re: wolf.. traps snaring and otherwise. [Re: otterman]
Top Jimmy Offline
"Assistant Speling Zcar"

Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 4446
Loc: Alaska, USA
Speaking of the burnt logs, does anyone make their own to use on the line? What kind of wood? How burnt is it? How thick is it? Was thinking of making some for next season, just to try out and see. Do they work on Coyotes and Fox too?

-TJ
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#153267 - 03/26/07 10:24 AM Re: wolf.. traps snaring and otherwise. [Re: Top Jimmy]
otterman Offline

trapper

Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 2318
Loc: SW Alaska
Question asked by Reuben
for wolf traps what is a good setup for chain and swivels?
I've seen some pics with cable attached to the trap, would this work for wolves or would they be likely to bite the cable in half?
I am going to try for them next year so I would like any input.
thanks

Reply from Alaskancajun
use MB (Minn Trapline Prod) 750 wolfer's Double laminated with the offset jaws. Then I have 10 foot of chain with MB crunch proof swivels every 3 feet!



I know it seems like overkill but I don't want to be the guy who has wolverine tracks approaching a set and no trap or fur to show for it!

I set that bad boy with my feet in flip flops.....



Here's my Lynx set up, a #4 DLS with plenty of chain and swivels to hold anything!

- Clint
Reply from Dusty
I have 10 foot of chain with MB crunch proof swivels every 3 feet!

That's about what I run, but I won't set a wolf trap without the swivels being welded shut - looks like yours aren't.
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#154921 - 03/27/07 10:17 AM Re: wolf.. traps snaring and otherwise. [Re: otterman]
takotna Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 1160
Loc: Takotna AK
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Speaking of the burnt logs, does anyone make their own to use on the line? What kind of wood? How burnt is it? How thick is it? Was thinking of making some for next season, just to try out and see. Do they work on Coyotes


I have quite a few burnt areas and just grab one from there, next year I'm going to try a log out of the wood stove and while still coals singe a bunch of stupid chichen feathers over it and try.

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#159312 - 03/30/07 11:36 AM Re: wolf.. traps snaring and otherwise. [Re: takotna]
paysho Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 137
Loc: quebec canada
In the AKA wolf trapping manual an editor'note say one of the best wolfers in AKA Danny Grangaard has wrote an article in the Alaska trappers magazine 1984 november issue about his various wolf trapping methods.Where can i get a copy of this issue or do someone having it will want share this info with us?

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#159350 - 03/30/07 12:09 PM Re: wolf.. traps snaring and otherwise. [Re: paysho]
white17 Offline
"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"

Registered: 03/17/07
Posts: 13644
Loc: McGrath, AK
ATA I think has back issues for sale.
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#160196 - 03/31/07 04:37 AM Re: wolf.. traps snaring and otherwise. [Re: white17]
paysho Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 137
Loc: quebec canada
Thanks White 17

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#160325 - 03/31/07 08:09 AM Re: wolf.. traps snaring and otherwise. [Re: paysho]
Pete in Frbks Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/28/06
Posts: 1968
Loc: Fairbanks, Alaska
Paysho,

You can call the Cutting Edge (ATA retail outlet) and ask about that specific issue.

907-452-7277

Pete

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#160736 - 03/31/07 03:58 PM Re: wolf.. traps snaring and otherwise. [Re: Pete in Frbks]
paysho Offline
trapper

Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 137
Loc: quebec canada
Thanks Pete

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